Sir Nigel Farage?

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Sweep said:
Farage isn't going anywhere.
I may be wrong but I don't think Carswell and Farage were best mates and I would guess Carswell would have gone even if Farage had remained leader.
Farage speaking about the collapse of the EU is not from the perspective that it would be a good thing in itself but rather that the UK is better off well clear of the EU if it should collapse.
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Probably more likely that the UK collapses than the EU.
 
SocketRocket said:
Collapses! Vivid imagination comes to mind.
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A vivid imagination and hope is all that Leave has.

And maybe Nige would rather not dwell on the problems to come - but would rather attempt to convince his fans and the gullible that the best thing about Brexit is that the EU is likely to collapse and for that reason we are best out of it - regardless.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
A vivid imagination and hope is all that Leave has.

And maybe Nige would rather not dwell on the problems to come - but would rather attempt to convince his fans and the gullible that the best thing about Brexit is that the EU is likely to collapse and for that reason we are best out of it - regardless.
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A fresh insult for the Vote Leavers then . Gullible! I thought you didn't make insults on here.

Well hope springs eternal as the saying goes. I hope Brexit is a great success , I hope the EU manages to prosper, I hope I win the lottery, I hope the world can be a better place.

John Keats put it quite well:

And as, in sparkling majesty, a star
Gilds the bright summit of some gloomy cloud;
Brightening the half veil'd face of heaven afar:
So, when dark thoughts my boding spirit shroud,
Sweet Hope, celestial influence round me shed,
Waving thy silver pinions o'er my head!
 
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jp5 said:
Probably more likely that the UK collapses than the EU.
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I think the EU can collapse. But it can collapse only if people are going to make it collapse. People working actively against the EU, then standing there and pointing out how bad it has become. Like an MEP not attending meetings, and then ranting that their own country is worse off.


Think how the public feels about the Torries and the NHS, and that they want to manage it to fail, so they can then privatise it.
 
Hypothetical question.
But if we managed before joining an expensive flop. Why can we not manage now?
 
larmen said:
I think the EU can collapse. But it can collapse only if people are going to make it collapse. People working actively against the EU, then standing there and pointing out how bad it has become. Like an MEP not attending meetings, and then ranting that their own country is worse off.


Think how the public feels about the Torries and the NHS, and that they want to manage it to fail, so they can then privatise it.
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The EU. Hardly any net contributers .....Lots of insolvent countries with their hands out.

Only a committed Socialist would think that is stable.
 
Tashyboy said:
Hypothetical question.
But if we managed before joining an expensive flop. Why can we not manage now?
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Well the world's a very different place now. And it wasn't an expensive flop and would have been even better had we committed enthusiastically to it instead of always trying to be half in and half out.
 
FairwayDodger said:
Well the world's a very different place now. And it wasn't an expensive flop and would have been even better had we committed enthusiastically to it instead of always trying to be half in and half out.
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I think we always battled against Germany and France working together, often against our best interests, and therefore making us an unequal partners
 
If anybody goes near Farage with a sword it should be to behead the so-and-so! Not that I agree with beheading, but in his case I will make an exception! 🙄
 
FairwayDodger said:
We made ourselves unequal partners, very much so.
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By objecting to 'partners' who decide on some rules, which we then accept and implement which they decide to ignore while we pick up the tab - with partners like that you don't need enemies.

I'm afraid you put your trust on the wrong side. Our 'partners' decided to sneakily tip the notional level playing field.
 
larmen said:
Socialist concepts:
NHS
Job Seaker Allowance
Legal Aid
...

I think the Trump is with you in wishing to abandon them.
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As I said Socialists are very good at spending other peoples money. I am not suggesting we spend nothing on welfare but too mush is wasted. JSA (Unemployment benefits) were introduced in 1911 by the way.
 
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