Sir Nigel Farage?

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SocketRocket said:
Some evidence of this would help to support that view.
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Oh for goodness sake - how about the death of Jo Cox and just try listening to LBC phone-ins and you'll hear it just every single day.

And I'll add that those who phone in are not usually actually the bigots - they are those who have believed what they have been told about immigrants and feel able and free to express their views on all the problems they subsequently believe are caused by immigration. So if these are ordinary worried folks - your real bigots (they do exist) are having a field day.
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Oh for goodness sake - how about the death of Jo Cox and just try listening to LBC phone-ins and you'll hear it just every single day.
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So Nigel Farage was responsible for the death of Joe Cox was he. I think that's a very low comment for you to make and to be honest I am surprised you made it. In your opinion he is responsible for the mind set of a man obviously suffering with mental health issues.

You seem to think what ever LBC phone ins receive are the workings of Farage then. Maybe you can enlighten me on exactly what he has said that makes him personally responsible for that.

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I see you have added some more rantings since I answered. Farage has said we need a controlled immigration system, maybe you can tell us how that has fueled a racist movement.
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Oh dear - methinks you doth feel hurt too easily. I certainly think that anyone who believes he should get a knighthood is seriously, seriously wrong. The reason for their being so wrong could be one or a combination of many.
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Seriously wrong is a big step back from a dangerous lunatic. Are you back tracking again?
I suggest you need to calm down your rhetoric and think about what you are saying before you post. Otherwise you just make yourself look silly.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Which (btw) was always going to happen - can't really blame the Roman's for being those who ended up carrying out the deed.
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Err, I think you can because they are the ones who did it. You can't blame anyone else because they didn't.
If I was a murderer I would love people like you on the jury.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Indeed. In truth it was 'the people' who chose Barrabas to survive rather than Christ - not that it was going to make any difference in the end as Christ was always going to be 'Godforsaken' - a bit like Farage would have this country - godforsaken...:(
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Good grief.
Do you read what you post?
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Oh for goodness sake - how about the death of Jo Cox and just try listening to LBC phone-ins and you'll hear it just every single day.

And I'll add that those who phone in are not usually actually the bigots - they are those who have believed what they have been told about immigrants and feel able and free to express their views on all the problems they subsequently believe are caused by immigration. So if these are ordinary worried folks - your real bigots (they do exist) are having a field day.
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Are you really accusing Farage of incitement to commit murder? That's a very serious accusation. Her murderer is mentally ill. Again, do yourself a favour and think about what you are posting.

I note that you attach a great deal of importantance to what you hear on LBC. I hope and trust you will be tuning in to their new offering "The Nigel Farage Show". As the late George Michael said, listen without prejudice. You might learn something.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
If you have not yet done so have a listen to Andy Marr's interview of Nicola Sturgeon yesterday in which she is adamant that her current priority is to seek and try and find a compromise position. She does not not step a way one moment from her #1 long term goal being independence, but recognises that compromise is essential.

Do you hear any such talk from Farage - no - of course you don't.
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There is a major difference. Sturgeon lost and is in a minority. Farage won and is in a majority. Sturgeon is pleading for a compromise because she lost. Do you really think she would be offering any kind of compromise if she had won??? Have you ever heard the term "soft Indy" or anything like it?
Farage on the other hand cannot offer a compromise because if he does the remainers and those like you who continually fail to accept a democratic decision will be all over it and turn Brexit (the will of the people decided by democratic process) into something so soft it would not resemble in any way what the people have voted for.
No-one voted for a compromise. No-one voted for "soft Brexit". The term itself is something dreamed up by remoaners since the referendum result was announced in an effort to derail as far as is possible that which the British people have voted for.
 
I think Farage and immigration is being oft misunderstood here.

I saw loads of interviews, probably more than many of you because I live 45 minutes from Thanet and he popped up on our "news from where you are" and other local output quite regularly and whenever I heard him his stance was always "controlled immigration". He defined that by being immigration of people whose trade, profession or abilities we required rather than an open border policy where millions of people, whether they had jobs, trades or any intention to work could, by law, just pitch up. He argued for an Australian type points system so that we could take immigration from anywhere in the world through choice rather than have an inflow of anyone who chose to pitch up here. I'm pretty sure that's view that most Brexiteers subscribed too.

My pretty regular 4 ball is made up of me, two Indians and a black West Indies dependant (British born) so whilst I voted to leave I'm hardly anti immigration!
 
First you have the "poster"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-refugees-warning-country-breaking-point.html

Then you have the "removal of racial discrimination laws"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol....-No-blacks.-No-Irish-is-now-Ukip-policy.html

You can keep going on and on and on in Regards his views

Him being in the public eye made some believe it is acceptable tome bigots and racists - can he blamed for the rise in hate crime - not directly no but it wouldn't surprise me if he had a smug satisfaction about it all.

He is insignificant now - his party are no longer needed , he isn't even an MP , I'm looking forward to him moving to the states and being pals with the other racist bigot over there
 
Sweep said:
A bit like Nicola Kranky with her bunch delusionals
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I take it you just ignore the daily racist homophobic posts and death threats aimed at the first minister from the 'angry white men'.

Thankfully you see very little of that on the Nationalist sites, they tend to use reasoned arguments and easy to find humorous irony instead.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
First you have the "poster"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-refugees-warning-country-breaking-point.html

Then you have the "removal of racial discrimination laws"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol....-No-blacks.-No-Irish-is-now-Ukip-policy.html

You can keep going on and on and on in Regards his views

Him being in the public eye made some believe it is acceptable tome bigots and racists - can he blamed for the rise in hate crime - not directly no but it wouldn't surprise me if he had a smug satisfaction about it all.

He is insignificant now - his party are no longer needed , he isn't even an MP , I'm looking forward to him moving to the states and being pals with the other racist bigot over there
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The poster seemed fair enough, it warned about allowing over a million people into Europe without security checks or any plan on how to manage them. His comments on giving precedence to UK citizens over immigrants for jobs also seems a fair procedure, why should we not do it that way, there's nothing racist about it at all. Some peoples attitude to him seem rather bigoted and unfair, the links you gave were typical of that attitude as is your post.
 
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Doon frae Troon said:
I take it you just ignore the daily racist homophobic posts and death threats aimed at the first minister from the 'angry white men'.

Thankfully you see very little of that on the Nationalist sites, they tend to use reasoned arguments and easy to find humorous irony instead.
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She wouldn't know a reasoned argument if it smacked her in the helmet. Come to that neither would you.
 
SocketRocket said:
The poster seemed fair enough, it warned about allowing over a million people into Europe without security checks or any plan on how to manage them. His comments on giving precedence to UK citizens over immigrants for jobs also seems a fair procedure, why should we not do it that way, theres nothing racist about it at all.
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not directly, but Lord Farage ( may as well promote him :thup:) has manipulated fear and uncertainty and used them as political weapons. How many women & children are in that poster? they are all adult males that are here to steal our jobs and 'scare' our women ! surely a more realistic projection would be a toddler floating face down in the Med, or a scared family fleeing war torn Aleppo.

What he has done, what UKIP have done, and what a number of pro brexit commentators have done, is magnified the fear of anything different deeply ingrained in some elements of society. If you tell a mentalist, that his council house will be taken from him & given to an 'immigrant', you should be held partly responsible when he follows a far right ideology & shoots a mother of 2 dead in the street. All my opinion of course.
Nige may be a capable politician but so was (insert extreme example here)
 
therod said:
not directly, but Lord Farage ( may as well promote him :thup:) has manipulated fear and uncertainty and used them as political weapons. How many women & children are in that poster? they are all adult males that are here to steal our jobs and 'scare' our women ! surely a more realistic projection would be a toddler floating face down in the Med, or a scared family fleeing war torn Aleppo.

What he has done, what UKIP have done, and what a number of pro brexit commentators have done, is magnified the fear of anything different deeply ingrained in some elements of society. If you tell a mentalist, that his council house will be taken from him & given to an 'immigrant', you should be held partly responsible when he follows a far right ideology & shoots a mother of 2 dead in the street. All my opinion of course.
Nige may be a capable politician but so was (insert extreme example here)
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But most of the immigrants coming through Europe were young single males. I dont believe he mentioned anything about stealing anyones council house or job but he did say enough is enough and it was, just ask people in Germany, Sweden, Hungary, Austria etc if you dont believe him.
 
SocketRocket said:
So Nigel Farage was responsible for the death of Joe Cox was he. I think that's a very low comment for you to make and to be honest I am surprised you made it. In your opinion he is responsible for the mind set of a man obviously suffering with mental health issues.

You seem to think what ever LBC phone ins receive are the workings of Farage then. Maybe you can enlighten me on exactly what he has said that makes him personally responsible for that.

PS,

I see you have added some more rantings since I answered. Farage has said we need a controlled immigration system, maybe you can tell us how that has fueled a racist movement.
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About the death of Jo Cox - You know very well that that is not what I said and in fact it is beneath you to suggest I did. But I'm not surprised as I guessed what I said would be deliberately misinterpreted.

And I'm actually not going to bother trying to prove to you that, by their statements and insinuations, Farage and his UKIP cronies have convinced so many that immigration is 'the root of all evil' and have wound up the bigots and enabled them to voice their toxic opinions. I'm just not.
 
Sweep said:
Seriously wrong is a big step back from a dangerous lunatic. Are you back tracking again?
I suggest you need to calm down your rhetoric and think about what you are saying before you post. Otherwise you just make yourself look silly.
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Ah right - you took my 'dangerous lunatic' description at face value - well sorry about that.
 
Sweep said:
Are you really accusing Farage of incitement to commit murder? That's a very serious accusation. Her murderer is mentally ill. Again, do yourself a favour and think about what you are posting.

I note that you attach a great deal of importantance to what you hear on LBC. I hope and trust you will be tuning in to their new offering "The Nigel Farage Show". As the late George Michael said, listen without prejudice. You might learn something.
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I listened to the Nigel Farage show - did you? In fact I agreed with a lot of what he said - in fact I agreed with almost everything he said. I'll be interested on your take on what he discussed.
 
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