Sir Nigel Farage?

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What a surprise - Farage thinks that the shooting in Florida is less to do with gun control than it is to do with failures in the FBI - buying the Trump tweet that has so angered so many in the States

Very sad that the FBI missed all of the many signals sent out by the Florida school shooter. This is not acceptable. They are spending too much time trying to prove Russian collusion with the Trump campaign - there is no collusion. Get back to the basics and make us all proud!

The first half of this is right, reasonable and justified criticism - but by then continuing in his own self-serving way he just undermines what was a fair criticism. As if all 35,000 FBI employees are spending their every waking hour investigating Russian interference in the US electoral process.

And of course he takes this line to attack the FBI - his current bete noir - and to feeds the Fox Frenzy attack on them. And here in the UK we have our own home-based media-favorite apologist...Farage.
 
Classic piece of twisting the truth from Farage this evening sucking up to Trump and self-justification for his support of Trump. A self-satisfied and delighted Farage states that the Mueller investigation no longer considers Trump a target for criminal action.

But that is not what Mueller has said.

The truth is that Mueller has said that he is not currently looking at criminal action against Trump. There is a very big difference and Mueller was very clear in making the distinction. Mueller has stated that Trump is under investigation, but is not currently a criminal target of the probe. Not that the truth mattered to Farage who gleefully proclaimed that this was justification for Trump claiming that the Russia collusion accusations were just a big fraud.

Thanks Nigel - you and that irresponsible idiot of a Foreign Secretary - the liar and the fool - the heroes of so many Leave voters and behind whom they trooped into the voting booth. Makes you feel just so good.
 
Yup.sure does. Trump might have not been truthful to win but he sure as hell is doing what he said he would do if he got in power.

Not like our lot that is in power. They all tell lies, they cheat us and NEVER do what we want them to do.
 
Yup.sure does. Trump might have not been truthful to win but he sure as hell is doing what he said he would do if he got in power.

Not like our lot that is in power. They all tell lies, they cheat us and NEVER do what we want them to do.

Pity few actually believed he'd be stupid enough to go ahead with policies as little thought through as his - or more to the point that the GOP in Congress and the Senate would meekly go along with him. Meanwhile he goes ahead and the damage to the US economy and jobs is underway. At some point the GOP are going to say 'no more'.

And Farage continues to spin the truth and lie.
 
If you seriously think that they are considered heroes by many leave voters then you are more of a fool than anyone !

really - methinks you must have been living in a monastery if you did not hear the clamour around Johnson and Farage during the referendum - and the clamour that was for Johnson to become PM...thankfully Gove did for him.

And why suggest that I am a fool...I am simply making an observation about what I have seen and heard from a lot of Leave voters over the last 18months about Farage and johnson. I don't think that merits placing me in the 'fool' camp - but hey - if that tickles yer tummy feel free - it's an easy dismissal that others can hang their hat on and join in...

But it is still a pity you choose to call me a rude fool.
 
SILH - have ever met Farage or Johnson? I, suspect not, yet you are able to make these categorical statements from behind the keyboard. I thought that to call someone a liar came close to being the wrong side of slander and/or libel.
 
really - methinks you must have been living in a monastery if you did not hear the clamour around Johnson and Farage during the referendum - and the clamour that was for Johnson to become PM...thankfully Gove did for him.

And why suggest that I am a fool...I am simply making an observation about what I have seen and heard from a lot of Leave voters over the last 18months about Farage and johnson. I don't think that merits placing me in the 'fool' camp - but hey - if that tickles yer tummy feel free - it's an easy dismissal that others can hang their hat on and join in...

But it is still a pity you choose to call me a rude fool.

Go back and look at the insults that you have used to describe Brexiteers, Members of Parliament and others and I suspect many forum members consider your continued insults to us Brexiteers to be the those of a foolish person.

However, I didn't say 'rude fool' but as usual SILH don't let the facts get in the way!
 
He uses the Corbyn defence.

He didn't say it, just repeating what others have said. Cut and paste merchant, no thoughts of his own it appears.

Spot on.

I only dip into this thread from time to time and am disappointed to see that the person who espouses Christian virtues can be as rude about MP's, voters and others as he chooses, especially when he is less than critical about, for me , something much more worrying than Brexit - the abuse of children, and others, within religious circles.
 
He uses the Corbyn defence.

He didn't say it, just repeating what others have said. Cut and paste merchant, no thoughts of his own it appears.

Spot on.

I only dip into this thread from time to time and am disappointed to see that the person who espouses Christian virtues can be as rude about MP's, voters and others as he chooses, especially when he is less than critical about, for me , something much more worrying than Brexit - the abuse of children, and others, within religious circles.

Bravo
 
really - methinks you must have been living in a monastery if you did not hear the clamour around Johnson and Farage during the referendum - and the clamour that was for Johnson to become PM...thankfully Gove did for him.

And why suggest that I am a fool...I am simply making an observation about what I have seen and heard from a lot of Leave voters over the last 18months about Farage and johnson. I don't think that merits placing me in the 'fool' camp - but hey - if that tickles yer tummy feel free - it's an easy dismissal that others can hang their hat on and join in...

But it is still a pity you choose to call me a rude fool.

Perhaps you could point us to the post where chrisd says that as I appear to be missing it?

Had he called you a rude fool I would certainly back the rude part; your behaviour towards those who chose to vote differently to you has been despicable and disgraceful, more so because of the supposed Christian values you claim to have. I am amazed that it is allowed to continue on here considering what others have been banned for.
 
really - methinks you must have been living in a monastery if you did not hear the clamour around Johnson and Farage during the referendum - and the clamour that was for Johnson to become PM...thankfully Gove did for him.

Neither Johnson nor Farage defined the Leave campaign, only elements of it. One used it as a vehicle for his own personal political ambitions, and the other is just white noise given too much 'air time.'

You continually raise the issue of immigration as the main issue around Leave, yet how often have you heard anti-federalism as a significant reason. You might be hearing the immigration issue on LBC, that has a 'readership' of 2 million, but the main reason I hear talked about is control and anti-federalism.

As for social cohesion; that hasn't existed my living memory. The have's and the have not's have defined social cohesion for as long as I can remember. Areas of towns being no-go areas, whilst other areas being trimmed hedges and long drives - did those areas ever mix? And the EU has never lifted those out of a poverty trap. The EU utopia you speak of has never existed, just as the non-EU utopia doesn't exist.
 
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