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Taken from the scottishgolfview website is the following story....it is one of the first I have heard regarding the world recession biting golf and I feel for the Pro even more as I played a fair bit of golf with him before he turned Pro when he was a member at Goswick....hope he finds something fast as he's a nice lad...have other clubs had such a downturn?

Falling members means Torphins Hill

cannot afford to keep Browne as pro

FROM THE EDINBURGH EVENING NEWS
By MARTIN DEMPSTER
An Edinburgh golf club is dispensing with the services of its professional after seeing membership levels fall by 50 per cent over the past few years.
Jamie Browne, who has been at Torphin Hill for the last 12 years, is leaving the club at the end of this month and will not be replaced."
Jamie is leaving mainly for financial reasons brought on by a falling membership," said Willie McCathie, the club secretary.
"We are down to just over 200 ordinary members, having had 400 or so eight years ago."
Most golf clubs in Scotland have lost members this year due to the recession, with some holding special Open Days to try and recruit new players.
Royal Musselburgh and Newbattle have already held such events and Lothianburn are opening their doors this Sunday.
"It's a real fight these days not only to get new members but then keep them," added McCathie. "The trouble is that, with a lot of the clubs having taken the step of getting rid of a joining fee, people are having a year here and a year there.
"We've got a special offer at the moment whereby people can become a member for £368 in the first year and we've had a small uptake on that. Whether they stay after that first year, however, is another matter and, unfortunately, it was a case of either dispensing with the club pro or the admin staff."
Browne, who was previously at the Braid Hills Golf Centre, will retain his status as a PGA pro but will be starting a new venture to try and make ends meet once he finishes at Torphin Hill.
"I will be staying as a golf professional and would like to get a teaching position somewhere," he said. "But, in the meantime, my brother, Malcolm, and I are going to get a black cab in Edinburgh."
Meanwhile, Lloyd Saltman has pulled out of this week's European Challenge Tour event in France after missing the cut in his last two outings on that circuit.
"He is taking the week off," commented dad Jack, who manages Lloyd and his two brothers, Elliot and Zack. Elliot is in action this week on the PGA EuroPro at Faithlegg in Ireland and will hope to take up where he left off when finishing strongly to tie for second at Collingtree Park last
 
As much as I feel sorry for him. I'm afraid that he is not alone. I am really concerned about how and when this torrid situation will end.

This week so far I've been turned down pre-interview stage for jobs that I am over qualified to do as well as jobs that I am perfectly capable of but don't fit the criteira!

I feel for anyone in this situation.
 
Dodger, i'm sure this recession is affecting us all and its not nice to see people with a great talent out of work.I'm sure if he's a good teacher his reputation will follow him and he won't be out of work for long.

I'm personally £800 a month (before Tax)down in wages because of the way the construction game is right now, contractors under cutting each other forcing fella's to take pay cuts or sign on but thats life and we've got to deal with it.

I'm certain there's people in a much worse situation than myself so as long as i'm working i'm happy.
 
Its a sad story but one that I'm sure will be repeated especially where clubs are paying a retainer to the pro each year and look to make cuts.

I think it was strange that the club in the article looked to cut the pro instead of admin staff but what can you do. I'm sure if he has any sort of reputation he'll find a role within the golf industry soon.
 
unfortunately, it was a case of either dispensing with the club pro or the admin staff."

Again, I'm with Homer on this.

How the hell can a GOLF club justify that. A pro already runs a shop, so surely they can do a bit of admin.

How many of the admin guys and gals can change a grip, or give lessons ?

How is the club going to encourage new members if they can't help them with their game ?

I know there's a recession on ( believe me, I KNOW ) but lowering standards to breaking point in the chase of affordability is false economy. It's beginning a downward spiral.

If the membership is falling, incentivise the existing members to stay, encourage them to bring new members, and grow from within. Some of the existing members will be skilled in various admin jobs. Build a seige mentality. Save our club, and all that. If there isn't a member that is an accountant, I'd be gobsmacked. If he enjoys the club, give him bar rewards for his time, and get him to help out - you'll get better value for your ££ than an employed person in fear for their job. What are the chances that a lady member might possible have done any secretarial work in the past - hugely unlikely I expect :eek:

Just sticking your head in the sand and hoping things will get better is going to end in tears anyway - at least go down fighting, you never know, it might well work.

I can see it as a feelgood news story already. Free advertising to boot. Can any member pull any strings at the local newspaper maybe ?
 
I'm sure admin staff means the secretary. Thats what most Scottish clubs run with. The Secretary will be cheaper to retain and does all the spade work for organising visiting parties etc which brings in revenue.

The Secretary will also be responsible for day to day running of the club.

Sad state of affairs but to be a PGA Professional in this day and age must be a hell of a struggle without the club struggling as well. Online superstores with huge discounts, ebay etc must make a pro's life murder!
 
I'm sure admin staff means the secretary. Thats what most Scottish clubs run with. The Secretary will be cheaper to retain and does all the spade work for organising visiting parties etc which brings in revenue.

The Secretary will also be responsible for day to day running of the club.

Sad state of affairs but to be a PGA Professional in this day and age must be a hell of a struggle without the club struggling as well. Online superstores with huge discounts, ebay etc must make a pro's life murder!

This particular secretary obviously isn't bringing in enough revenue, though.

:(

Maybe they should employ some marketing guru. :mad: ( sorry, I'll shut up now )
 
On a brighter note it means more business for Municipals with their associated clubs. They have seen in the boom times has been their falling memberships over the past 10-15 years which didn’t raise any eyebrows due to private clubs taking the business.

Our Pro covers 3 courses and two clubs inc two pro shops with his assistants and it seems to be working for himself.
 
I was going to goto the local muni at least for this season.

But when I realised my financial position is actually worse than I imagined it was & seeing the new rota that will actually see me working more hours & days in a week, for essentially less money over the year. I realised even that even the local muni is not an option.

Looks like the only practice I'll be getting in is taking an iron or two & a few ball down to the local recreational ground occasional early mornings, just to keep my hand in.

Somehow I need to acrew an extra 5k a year than I am at the moment. Can't see it happening. :(

Had things not been quite so bad, moneywise & rotawise I'd have certainly had at least one season at the local Muni or another local course of similar fees.
 
The course in question has a battle on their hands to keep their current members and will struggle to gain new members. Its probably the highest course in the South of Scotland and there are lots of offers on in and around Edinburgh at the moment. Many factors bring on an event like this, but the unfortunate fact is people will get better deal at better courses in the local area at present.
 
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