Pin-seeker
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For example.
I saw this question on Facebook this morning from a lady who is bringing up 2 young children.....
So it offends you if people don't speak the queens English,but Facebook doesn't offend you?
Should we just give in ?
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So it offends you if people don't speak the queens English,but Facebook doesn't offend you?
bobmac
Major Champion
I'm not offended by either. 
Jay Gee
Assistant Pro
Language is fluid and reflects the words used in speech, print and other media. English today is very different than that used in Churchill's time, Victorian times, Shakespeare's time etc. There is a big difference between poorly written or spoken English and the evolution of the English language. Shakespeare invented many words and expressions, whilst many words are derived from other languages.
I think there is underlying resentment is that this country gave its language to various colonies and countries, which then had the temerity to make their own adjustments and throw it back at us. This is just the way it is and like it or not, if enough people speak it or write it in this country, it will become accepted into the English language.
There is a fine, confusing and contradictory line between the correct use of the English language and evolution. You either pick a date it history and adhere to the English used at that time or accept that language will change over time. Some people believe that the English they learnt at school or in use at that time, is the only acceptable English.
For the record, I see nothing wrong with English adapting. It's how it's always been. The big difference is that English primarily evolved at the hands of scholars, writers and institutions like the courts or the BBC who had some sympathy for the language, whereas it is now at the mercy of the Disney channel!
I think there is underlying resentment is that this country gave its language to various colonies and countries, which then had the temerity to make their own adjustments and throw it back at us. This is just the way it is and like it or not, if enough people speak it or write it in this country, it will become accepted into the English language.
There is a fine, confusing and contradictory line between the correct use of the English language and evolution. You either pick a date it history and adhere to the English used at that time or accept that language will change over time. Some people believe that the English they learnt at school or in use at that time, is the only acceptable English.
For the record, I see nothing wrong with English adapting. It's how it's always been. The big difference is that English primarily evolved at the hands of scholars, writers and institutions like the courts or the BBC who had some sympathy for the language, whereas it is now at the mercy of the Disney channel!
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Snap!
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Well spotted sir!
Bucket92
Challenge Tour Pro
Agreed
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
I generally have to stifle a laugh when I hear clips of 1920/30's BBC English.
The Brits who went off to run the Empire took that exaggerated language with them and you still hear bits of it from pretentious locals.
Etc,etc,etc and so and and so forth.
The Brits who went off to run the Empire took that exaggerated language with them and you still hear bits of it from pretentious locals.
Etc,etc,etc and so and and so forth.
Whee
Challenge Tour Pro
At this moment in time, I agree with you...
mcbroon
Journeyman Pro
Language is fluid and reflects the words used in speech, print and other media. English today is very different than that used in Churchill's time, Victorian times, Shakespeare's time etc. There is a big difference between poorly written or spoken English and the evolution of the English language. Shakespeare invented many words and expressions, whilst many words are derived from other languages.
I think there is underlying resentment is that this country gave its language to various colonies and countries, which then had the temerity to make their own adjustments and throw it back at us. This is just the way it is and like it or not, if enough people speak it or write it in this country, it will become accepted into the English language.
There is a fine, confusing and contradictory line between the correct use of the English language and evolution. You either pick a date it history and adhere to the English used at that time or accept that language will change over time. Some people believe that the English they learnt at school or in use at that time, is the only acceptable English.
For the record, I see nothing wrong with English adapting. It's how it's always been. The big difference is that English primarily evolved at the hands of scholars, writers and institutions like the courts or the BBC who had some sympathy for the language, whereas it is now at the mercy of the Disney channel!
Well said that man/lady, I absolutely agree with you. But then I also agree with Bob. There are some phrases and words that just sound a bit wrong and much of it comes from the consumption of media from across the pond.
In my humble opinion, however, more of a curse is the creeping influence of 'pundit-talk', with it's inanities ("Obviously, y'know, for me, he'll be disappointed with that"), misuse of the word 'literally' and confused tenses.
In the golf world, I can't stand hearing players say "I hit the golf ball really well" or "The golf course is playing very long". You're Luke Donald, you play golf - do you think we need the clarification?
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Evesdad
Tour Winner
I've actually banned my daughter from watching most of the children's channels such as Disney and nickelodeon etc and she has an English teacher for a mother so there is no hope! On saying that her literacy mark for school is 2 years above where she should be so there is light at the end of the tunnel! She is at a c grade gcse level and she's only 9!
