Should pro's warn people more

[Bunkermagnet]

Watching the Genesis thing from California this evening, and Pat Perez tee's off on can't remember which hole it was, but he's looking right leaning left as he's watching and smack....straight onto the face of a lad watching. You could hear the crack as it hit him. No shout of fore or anything from anyone, and all he did was give the guy a signed golf ball......even the commentators commented.

 

[Dasit]

Disgraceful no one shouts fore. Surprised that did not kill him was one hell of a smack to the face.

Why can't the caddy shout? Should be part of their responsibility.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Disgraceful no one shouts fore. Surprised that did not kill him was one hell of a smack to the face.

Why can't the caddy shout? Should be part of their responsibility.

It sounded like it had landed on a wooden chair or something. He was lucky if it hadnt broken his cheek or eye socket.

 

[ruff-driver]

It was the 3rd time he'd done it

http://www.skysports.com/golf/news/...tor-in-the-head-with-tee-shot-at-genesis-open

About time the authorities started handing out penalties :rant:

 

[garyinderry]

For a sport that prides itself on traditions and following etiquette, the way some pros get on , its a disgrace.

I would like to see a rule that a player is disqualified if he hits a ball offline, hits a spectator and doesn't shout FORE.

It shouldn't have come to this but the blatant disregard for others is shocking.

 

[Snelly]

Agreed. It is pathetic that many pros seem to consider themselves above the etiquette of the game in this specific regard.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

The distance that these guys hit the ball, you could argue that a shout is pointless, but there must be some gesticulation that indicates that there is a loose one about.
Not to do so is criminal

 

[clubchamp98]

It was the 3rd time he'd done it

http://www.skysports.com/golf/news/...tor-in-the-head-with-tee-shot-at-genesis-open

About time the authorities started handing out penalties :rant:

agree with this .
If you hit offline and don't shout Fore you should get a two shot penalty.
Do it again DQ.

went to the Bay Hill Invitational last year and there is a disclaimer on the ticket that you enter at your own risk.

All you get is a signed ball bit of a joke if one of them was sued they might think twice, golf ball is going to kill someone eventually.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Disgraceful no one shouts fore. Surprised that did not kill him was one hell of a smack to the face.

Why can't the caddy shout? Should be part of their responsibility.

No; the player hit it, it's the player's responsibility to shout. The caddie may not even be in a position to see the danger

 

[Dasit]

No; the player hit it, it's the player's responsibility to shout. The caddie may not even be in a position to see the danger

Don't think the player should have to shout it and if the player does not the caddy should.

 

[Slab]

Primarily responsible is Perez, I can’t fathom why he wouldn’t shout (other than hoping his ball might ‘bounce’ back onto the fairway, and that’s a terrible thing to think might be a motivation for a pro) but you can’t let the rest of the guys off the hook either

Whether I hit it or not, If I see an ball that’s heading towards other folk I’m shouting

So Perez is No1 culprit but his caddie, the other FC’s, their caddies, the marshals, the rules guy, they’re all to blame if they saw the ball flight

Even the spectators who saw the flight should be shouting fore, much better than shouting about potatoes or get in the hole

 

[Dogma]

Agree on the lack of shouting, but from what I recall the commentators said it was a slight dogleg and it's possible Perez didn't know how close it was to the line of fans.

Hopefully the chap is ok, as it was a hell of a smack!

 

[Blue in Munich]

Don't think the player should have to shout it and if the player does not the caddy should.

Really? Please share the logic here as I'm not seeing how the person who hit the ball and is likely to have the best view of it gets a pass on warning people about the potential issue that they have created………..

 

[Simbo]

Golf governing bodies seem to be terrified to do something about anything in golf these days, slow play and nonsense like this.
Doing it once is bad enough but 3 times!! The responsibility is the players, no-one else's, he hits it, he sees it. Although the hole was a slight dogleg and he might not have been able to see where the ball was actually going he must have known there were spectators in the area. Complete and utter disregard for the fans.
Unfortunatly fans can't sue or claim for injuries like this!

 

[Imurg]

When these things happen I always ask myself what the crowd are doing..?
Yes, the Pro, Caddy, anyone on then tee box etc etc needs to shout - that's a given and anyone who disagrees with that shouldn't be playing.
But some responsibility lies with the crowd.
What were they watching, where were they looking?
Someone in that crowd had to pick up the flight of the ball and warn everyone else of an incoming missile....
Ok, if it was a slight dogleg then it may not have been easy but there are a lot of people at these events and someone should have seen it coming.

I also wonder what effect a shout from 300 yards away is going to have...
Noise from passers-by, concession stands, aircraft flying over, in some cases trains going by....
A shout from 300 yards away isn't going to be heard in those circumstances.
On a relatively quiet course on a Sunday morning - yes, it will get heard..And of course most of us don't hit it 300+...
But at a big event with thousands of people..?
You're not going to hear it. Or if you do it will be very difficult to pin point where it's coming from
If you're 300 yards from a tee box you're probably within 300 yards of 3 or 4 other holes too....Where's the shout from?
If you go to a golf tournament you have to pay attention to what's going on - simple as that.

None of the above means that the Pro shouldn't shout........

 

[SteveJay]

Don't think the player should have to shout it and if the player does not the caddy should.

Seriously hope this is a typo and you really mean "Do think the player should have to shout......."

 

[cookelad]

Do the victims never sue the pro's?

It is the US after all and they do like that sort of thing over there. If this guy who's been hit in the face now has to go to hospital, not free in the US, he's going to get a bill for any treatment, but it's ok he's got a signed glove. A couple of lawsuits for six figure sums and they'll soon get back in the habit of shouting.

 

[Simbo]

Do the victims never sue the pro's?


It is the US after all and they do like that sort of thing over there. If this guy who's been hit in the face now has to go to hospital, not free in the US, he's going to get a bill for any treatment, but it's ok he's got a signed glove. A couple of lawsuits for six figure sums and they'll soon get back in the habit of shouting.

Can't sue I'm sure, it will be covered in terms and conditions on the back of the ticket.

 

[pokerjoke]

I see Shane Lowry called it disgraceful on twitter.

My advice to Shane is forget twitter and go and tell him next time you see him and pull him up on it.

If someone shouts on the tee box the message will get passed on if the shots over 300.

If in doubt shout pure and simple[someone will get killed one day].
If you are in the crowd putting yourself in the firing line is also irresponsible imo I think I would always try and stand behind any player hitting a ball.

 

[Dan2501]

When these things happen I always ask myself what the crowd are doing..?
Yes, the Pro, Caddy, anyone on then tee box etc etc needs to shout - that's a given and anyone who disagrees with that shouldn't be playing.
But some responsibility lies with the crowd.
What were they watching, where were they looking?
Someone in that crowd had to pick up the flight of the ball and warn everyone else of an incoming missile....
Ok, if it was a slight dogleg then it may not have been easy but there are a lot of people at these events and someone should have seen it coming.

They couldn't see the tee from where they got hit, was a fairly sharp dogleg to the right and so they couldn't possibly have seen it coming. A shout from the tee would have at least given them a chance to get out the way.