SeveDay - Are They Bandits?

I still cant see those over 46 as being possible. Escpecially like the 55 who is already a single figure player.

Shame on the players who posted the scores.

Shame on the Organisers for soiling Seve's name and letting these guys get away with it.
 
Rory130911 said:
Shame on the players who posted the scores.

Shame on the Organisers for soiling Seve's name and letting these guys get away with it.
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shame on those posters who can't see how it can happen ..........

it's been explained already, in detail, and I have even established appropriate courses where I would head if I entered this event - It's pretty easy to pick up 5 points, possibly 6, against SSS.

statistically, with a large field such as entered this, you are going to see a fair number or -8 to -10 scores from people playing the round of their life - added to the above advantage and up to 50 is entirely reasonably.

as to the 55, are you sure that he was a single figure golfer when he did the round? I had thought the player was a junior who has been improving fast through the summer and was at a high'ish handicap for the submitted round. Again, such situations happen and handicaps follow capability changes rather than lead. 14 shot improvements in handicap over the summer school holidays is not again 'not unknown' and add in the selection of a good course as above and 55's not 'impossible' - amazing, but not impossible. Great to see such players improving in this way!
 
Ive witnessed 50 by a perfectly honest young golfer who was improving quite quickly. I could understand maybe 2 or 3 more than that points wise but 55 is getting close to silly territory imo. Anything more than 55 is just a complete and utter joke to the game of golf.
 
High 40's low 50's certainly possible. I once had 49 points. Was playing off 28 at the time and had the round of my life at Longniddry - Shot 83 against the 68 par. Have never matched it since. I even missed a couple of putts so it could have been a bit higher.
The mid 50's scores a bit dubious - esp if off a low H/C - but are actually possible
 
Judging by the scores posted on her twitter account, ms Varma has averaged less than 18 over par playing at Sale in the past 6 weeks.
Explains why "she has scored in the forties" a few times as she put it, as her skycaddie score card gives her hcp as 28.
One round contained a hole in one which she surprisingly didn’t tweet about.
 
backwoodsman said:
High 40's low 50's certainly possible. I once had 49 points. Was playing off 28 at the time and had the round of my life at Longniddry - Shot 83 against the 68 par. Have never matched it since. I even missed a couple of putts so it could have been a bit higher.
The mid 50's scores a bit dubious - esp if off a low H/C - but are actually possible
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I scored 48 points in society day at my home club a few years ago.
The important thing is that I gave card to hcp sec and got a cut.
 
Rory130911 said:
Surely Caplehorn, Prewett & Calver must go. These scores are just not possible with an accurate handicap, even on your best Day?


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Last year I shot a 4 under gross 66 for 49 points.
Playing off 9.

It does happen

55+ takes a bit of believing though....
 
Only the 62 raised eyebrows?

If the scores were so genuine, how come they have revised handicaps - the handicaps have been verified by the clubs after all. I'm sorry, but despite that statement, I'm still not buying it
 
who's to say their playing partners were not in on the cheating scam and just wrote on the card any old numbers,seems this comp was doomed from the start and open to the low life cheats,i hate playing in away comps that have 4 balls made up of mates because inevitably one always seems to "had the game of my life!!!!!" as they scoop the top prize and the bigger the prize the bigger the cheating.
 
At least someone has had a look at it from a jounalistic point of view. Well done to DarthVega for flagging it up to a journalist on Twitter (Al Dunsmeir who is a good person to follow by the way)
 
HawkeyeMS said:
Only the 62 raised eyebrows?

If the scores were so genuine, how come they have revised handicaps - the handicaps have been verified by the clubs after all. I'm sorry, but despite that statement, I'm still not buying it
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Some - tho not all - will have had a hcp cut from club in the month or two since submitting their score.
I would think that organisers should adjust others in line with CONGU guidelines.
I wish I knew which website Sale publishes their hcp and comp results (not HDID) as the DQ person who "scored" 62 regularly plays to +18 yet says she is 28 hcp.
 
North Mymms said:
Some - tho not all - will have had a hcp cut from club in the month or two since submitting their score.
I would think that organisers should adjust others in line with CONGU guidelines.
I wish I knew which website Sale publishes their hcp and comp results (not HDID) as the DQ person who "scored" 62 regularly plays to +18 yet says she is 28 hcp.
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it is on their own web site,i have txt'd a mate who played there and i am waiting for his reply to see if he had heard of this woman
 
Here's the text of that article for anyone who's having trouble viewing it:

Organisers of a cancer charity golf tournament in honour of Seve Ballesteros have stated that the current top 72 winning scores are all genuine, after one competitor was disqualified and others have been accused of being ‘cheats’ and ‘bandits’.

‘Seve Day’ involved golfers who had paid a £25 entry fee submitting Stableford scores from any European course throughout July and August. The top 72 were earlier this month invited to a star-studded final at The Belfry this October in which prizes such as a trip to the US Masters will be on offer. All money raised was for the Seve Ballesteros Foundation for Cancer Research UK, and more than 1,000 people in July alone paid the £25 fee.


However, questions were raised in early September when the top three scores included two in the 50s and one in the 60s, meaning that the players had shot between 14 and 26 under their handicaps. The SeveDay.com website and @SeveDay2012 Twitter account were bombarded with questions and accusations, while a post on the Golf Monthly forum, SeveDay – Are They Bandits? received over 7,000 views and nearly 200 replies.


Comments included: ‘Let’s forget the word ‘bandits’ and say ‘cheats’. Those scores are a joke’ and ‘The scores are an insult to Seve’.


Organisers responded to the outcry by issuing a statement on September 12 which said ‘that all scores have been officially verified with the playing partners of those individuals as well as their golf clubs’.


However, it then transpired that the winning score of 62 included 18 points that were scored by the golfer’s doubles’ partner, and she has now been disqualified. Despite the withdrawal, organisers are confident that this was a one-off and that all other scores are genuine.


“We have many keen golfers in the office and, suffice to say, the winning score of 62 raised more than a few eyebrows,” said Seve Day organiser Gemma Brindley.


“However, we were in a difficult position in that both the winner’s playing partner confirmed her score whilst Sale Golf Club confirmed her handicap. We contacted the winner on a number of occasions to raise these concerns but she insisted her score was correct.


“It has since transpired that she in fact recorded 62 points in a doubles competition of which only 44 were scored by her. We therefore had no option but to disqualify her from the competition.


“The other unusually high scores have been thoroughly investigated, both playing partners and clubs contacted to verify, and we remain comfortable with our decision to allow these players to compete in the final.


“A number of competitors will be playing off revised handicaps for the final at The Belfry, which should ensure a fair tournament.”
 
[B said:
cack_handed[/B]]How the heck can she score 17 under on a round when she only hit one fairway off the tee
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Smiffy said:
JustOne has managed level par playing like that before. So if she was off 23, it's achievable.
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LOLOLOLOL :D


I've shot 4 under par off 6 h/cap for a mahooooosive 46pts!

I'd have had to be 13 under to get to 55pts... it's do-able :whistle:

Can't remember how many fairways I hit or how many GIR's if someone wants to work it out from the shot-by-shot account of the round feel free (it wasn't many of either :D
http://forums.golf-monthly.co.uk/sh...t-happy-Greedy&p=248466&viewfull=1#post248466



It does appear that T Caplehorn is officially the biggest bandit/cheat in the UK shooting 55pts off 13 h/cap..... is that 6 under par playing off 13??? and THEN gets his h/cap cut?? Oh come on!

I wonder if any junior EVER bettered that score for a 13yr old?
 
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