SeveDay - Are They Bandits?

Fader said:
What the hell are they playing off handicaps of 100.

62 Points, is banditry of thehighest order. I mean 41 points in last place something seriously wrong there. If I had 41 points i'd at least be expecting a podium finish not the sodding wooden spoon.
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They are just the scores submitted to qualify for the final. As I understand it the format allowed people to submit a score from any round in July or August. So far as I can see it didn't even have to be in an official comp or nominated in advance. Scores verified by playing partners. Might have been a bounce game off the yellows with SSS 65. Top 72 scores qualify for the final at the Belfry. Entry was £25.

I'm surprised 41 made the final.

Getting to final is pretty good initself

"All finalists will be invited to a welcome breakfast before taking to the course, and at the end of the day a gala dinner will be held to announce the winner of Seve Day 2012. Overnight accommodation at The Belfry is also included for all finalists in what promises to be a fantastic event to honour Seve Ballesteros and his legacy."

If you made it the top Prize on the day is pretty tasty


  • Return flights from the UK to Atlanta with transfers to Augusta
  • 3 nights B&B accommodation at the Sheraton Augusta with complimentary transfers to Augusta National
  • 2 rounds of golf at championship courses
  • Official US Masters souvenir
  • US Masters badge for Saturday and Sunday
  • US Masters chair for prime viewing location
  • New full set of custom made top of the range John Letters golf clubs
  • New pair of FootJoy golf shoes
  • Golf Travel bag
  • Your Golf Travel t-shirts
  • Sunderland jacket
As I said earlier in the tread I thought the R&A prize limit for Amatuer golfers was £500 retail value.
 
louise_a said:
There is a tweet from T Caplehorns dad saying he practices 6-7 times a day during the school holidays and has shot a 63 gross. As I mentioned before his dad is a PGA coach.
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If the lad plays every qualifier he can, and/or is taking advantage of putting in supplementary cards he's not a bandit. As a Junior Organiser I've seen juniors scoring like this every summer, and I had midweek qualifiers for them as well as midweek medals with seniors marking the card and weekend comps/leagues. Youngsters develop very quickly in terms of skill and strength, and handicapping them, even with liberal use of Rule23, is difficult.
 
MashieNiblick said:
They are just the scores submitted to qualify for the final. As I understand it the format allowed people to submit a score from any round in July or August. So far as I can see it didn't even have to be in an official comp or nominated in advance. Scores verified by playing partners. Might have been a bounce game off the yellows with SSS 65. Top 72 scores qualify for the final at the Belfry. Entry was £25.

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Thing is tho mashie the organisers said origionaly that they had checked& veryfied the score with her marker... so if they had done that & posted the result .. why have they changed & DQ'd her .. correctly so might id add but they are making a bad bad situation worse with everything they do
 
bladeplayer said:
Thing is tho mashie the organisers said origionaly that they had checked& veryfied the score with her marker... so if they had done that & posted the result .. why have they changed & DQ'd her .. correctly so might id add but they are making a bad bad situation worse with everything they do
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It does seem to be blunder after blunder!
 
bladeplayer said:
Thing is tho mashie the organisers said origionaly that they had checked& veryfied the score with her marker... so if they had done that & posted the result .. why have they changed & DQ'd her .. correctly so might id add but they are making a bad bad situation worse with everything they do
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I can see my post might have been a bit unclear. I wasn't referring to any particular score, just saying that the way the comp was set up, so that anyone could submit the best score they made, even in a friendly game, on any course, in any context, over a period of 2 months, I was surprised 41 even made the final.
 
cookelad said:
It does seem to be blunder after blunder!
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This is what made me laugh, they announce in the morning that all scores have been checked and verified and were all above board but there thorough investigations did not reveal that this person has apparently put down a 2 ball combined score (still not sure how that one was worked out as the full score for her is clearly on one card on Skycaddie). Basically they appear to have concocted a story that allows a DQ without anyone actually being accused of cheating. Then this woman has the cheek to claim that 44 of those points were hers (just enough to ensure qualification) and asks to be put in the final again.

As for the 55 points, shooting 19 under your handicap is a bit hard to take, though I suppose not totally impossible. Still would warrant further investigation as there are plus figure golfers at my club who would walk off with that gross score and think that they had had the round of their life. Call me suspicious but the tweets from the father sound like an attempt to get a defence in first as it is clear that all of the attention is now going to focus on that score.

I really think the organisers need to be apologising for arranging this shambles under the name of a legend.
 
GB72 said:
As for the 55 points, shooting 19 under your handicap is a bit hard to take, though I suppose not totally impossible. Still would warrant further investigation as there are plus figure golfers at my club who would walk off with that gross score and think that they had had the round of their life. Call me suspicious but the tweets from the father sound like an attempt to get a defence in first as it is clear that all of the attention is now going to focus on that score.
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Yeah he knew what's coming. I could stretch to believing a 50 (having been guilty of a 48 myself!)

Even as a betterball score 62 is astonishing! I've seen a few betterballs in the 50s on winter league days - shortened course, holes as big as buckets etc.
 
cookelad said:
Yeah he knew what's coming. I could stretch to believing a 50 (having been guilty of a 48 myself!)

Even as a betterball score 62 is astonishing! I've seen a few betterballs in the 50s on winter league days - shortened course, holes as big as buckets etc.
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It sounds like the pair's aggregate score, not a better ball.
 
I don't think they'll touch the other three scores over 50 or any remaining shred of integrity will be lost. I think this lady will disappear into the ether very quickly once she realises there isn't a proper golfer who believes anything she has said in connectionto her round
 
I don't know what everyone's problem is, I think she's fit.

I'll bring the tickly feather, the whisk and the gimp mask (said in an Allo' Allo' type accent).
 
Liverbirdie said:
I don't know what everyone's problem is, I think she's fit.

I'll bring the tickly feather, the whisk and the gimp mask (said in an Allo' Allo' type accent).
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I vote we should start a new photo trend similar to planking and owling but done on the golf tee or golf cart.

Call it "doing a Shanu" or "doing a Varma"

I vote first honours should go to bobmac, smiffy and imurg.

Post those pics up soon guys ;)
 
ScienceBoy said:
I vote we should start a new photo trend similar to planking and owling but done on the golf tee or golf cart.

Call it "doing a Shanu" or "doing a Varma"

I vote first honours should go to bobmac, smiffy and imurg.

Post those pics up soon guys ;)
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Me and StuC will win the best cleavage shots. :)
 
ScienceBoy said:
I vote we should start a new photo trend similar to planking and owling but done on the golf tee or golf cart.

Call it "doing a Shanu" or "doing a Varma"

I vote first honours should go to bobmac, smiffy and imurg.

Post those pics up soon guys ;)
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Do they have to be naked and hugging a teddy bear.
 
Surely Caplehorn, Prewett & Calver must go. These scores are just not possible with an accurate handicap, even on your best Day?


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[TD]T Caplehorn
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[TD]55[/TD]
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[TD]B Prewett
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[TD]50[/TD]
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[TD]P Calver
[/TD]
[TD]49[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
 
Rory130911 said:
Surely Caplehorn, Prewett & Calver must go. These scores are just not possible
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49 points is certainly possible. We have a player who started the year on 22, came down over a period of several months to 20, and in his 31st qualifier of the year, scored 49 points. His handicap record is there for all to see the genuineness of his handicap. Days when everything clicks do occur.
 
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