SeveDay - Are They Bandits?

Explain to me hole 13.

304 yard par 4. Hits her teeshot 156 yards (which in my reckoning doesn't make the green) and 3 putts for a par.

Did she count her first putt as the one 148 yards away, that's further than most of her drives !!
 
This is a disgrace, and a hideous slur on Seve's name. He must be turning in his grave, and the organisers should be ashamed of themselves for exploiting his name to make money for themselves. Their statement makes it clear that they do not give a toss about the veracity of scores and handicaps, and they could basically care less.

Now, 28 handicappers will have wildly variable scores, one good, the next terrible, but 62 points is so far out of the range of possible scores that it demands the accusation of being untruthful and false. I simply don't believe it is possible using normal mathematics as I was taught them.

GM should cover this, and I hope they apply a suitably questioning tone when doing so.

I didn't enter this event and don't know anybody who did, but it still makes me angry to see what is clearly cheating on such a gross scale.
 
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Obviously farcical....

I do however see the organisers problem.

They want to make it open to everyone because if they make it club golfers only they are basically telling thousands of people (like me) that they can't participate.

It's wrong to suggest ( as a few posters have) that all/most without an official handicap would cheat if they entered something like this. I considered it but decided not to. Had I done so I'd have scored myself honestly and played off an accurate handicap, as I do everytime I play. I am sure 95% of participants did this.

They also have to offer some incentive other than giving to charity because if they don't lots of people sadly won't enter.

It's the 95% of people who entered this, gave to a very worthy cause and played honestly i feel sorry for. The people who did cheat, and their partners in crime, should obviously be ashamed of themselves. Amazes me that people have the sheer brass neck to do stuff like this.

It might be that the organisers have to end up limiting this to club golfers only and accepting they will raise a little bit less cash. But they will have a competition which isn't a complete joke....
 
are you sure these are not 36 hole stableford scores at a tough course? ;)

it is a shocker though.

I scored 47 points in our roll up spring meet, gross 69 (par 72) playing off 9, and i got bandit jokes for months, heaven knows what my lot would make of these scores.
 
Westy said:
Explain to me hole 13.

304 yard par 4. Hits her teeshot 156 yards (which in my reckoning doesn't make the green) and 3 putts for a par.

Did she count her first putt as the one 148 yards away, that's further than most of her drives !!
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I think you shouldn't pay much heed to the skycaddie stats - they can easily go a bit awry.

She seems to have had a few scores around 90.... maybe her handicap should be more like 18 than 28. I can just about (at a stretch) believe an 18 handicapper having an amazing day and shooting 76, but not a 28 handicapper. Either way - either the score has been concocted or her handicap kept artificially high; pretty embarrassing for all concerned I'd think.
 
bobmac said:
Does it matter?

Lets not forget the others who had 49, 50, and 55 pts
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Bob, the way this is set up as stableford points without regard for the relationship between par and SSS it's entirely possible for 'best ever' rounds or even 'carefully constructed' rounds, to deliver up to 50 points IMO (think about the results in large number events like the Ford over the years where -8 to -10 in club Q events were the bar with 100,000 entrant events).

I say carefully constructed as I know many courses with par about 5 shots higher than SSS of the front tees and that is where I would head!!! I would then play it every day, maybe twice somedays, and 45 isn't going to be that tough to achieve (I had that on the one occasion I played our baby course in a q comp last year)

55 ........um - not impossible within the handicapping system and statistical environment of 30,000 competitors

62............... no comment
 
It would seem that they have acted on some of this information:

[TABLE="class: table table-striped"]
[TR]
Name Score [/TR]
[TR]
[TD]S Varma[/TD]
[TD]DQ[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]T Caplehorn[/TD]
[TD]55[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]B Prewett[/TD]
[TD]50[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]P Calver[/TD]
[TD]49[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Just these other 3 to deal with I would think?
 
I am quite disappointed about how quiet the golfing media have been on this today. It was all over Twitter this morning but not one comment or question from most. Golfshake ran with it a bit this morning but stopped as soon as the official explanation (for what use that was) came out. As far as the organisers were concerned this morning, they had investigated the matter fully and the 62 score was to stand.

There have been enough stories about banditry in other big name, national competitions but the scores involved had enough of a ring of truth about them to make further investigation a legal minefield. Now we have the most outrageous score claimed in a national competition held in the name of a golfing legend. Even now it warrants some coverage. The score has now been DQd but only a few hours ago they were going to let it stand. The organisers at least should be asked to reveal details of why they DQd the card and full details should be passed on to the person's club and, if there is any hint of cheating, to the police as a clear attempt to defraud the competition organisers and entrants.
 
I think the press would need to be very careful and it is already apparent there are lies and damned lies from the organisers through to the players and those marking their cards. Interesting to see Varma has been D/Q'd. Where was that taken from as she hasn't changed her blog page so would appear to be blissfully unaware of the latest twist. I wonder if the others will get kicked out as well. Is there an official explanation anywhere
 
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