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Sergio..... Fried Chicken

sydney greenstreet said:
Can someone enlighten me as to how their is a supposed link between southern fried chicken and racism ? :confused:
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Stolen from Wiki, but for once its not bad.

When it was introduced to the American South, fried chicken became a common staple. Later, as the slave trade led to Africans being brought to work on southern plantations, the slaves who became cooks incorporated seasonings and spices that were absent in traditional Scottish cuisine, enriching the flavor.[10] Since most slaves were unable to raise expensive meats, but generally allowed to keep chickens, frying chicken on special occasions continued in the African American communities of the South. It endured the fall of slavery and gradually passed into common use as a general Southern dish. Since fried chicken traveled well in hot weather before refrigeration was commonplace, it gained further favor in the periods of American history when segregation closed off most restaurants to the black population. Fried chicken continues to be among this region's top choices for "Sunday dinner" among both blacks and whites. Holidays such as Independence Day and other gatherings often feature this dish.[11]
Since the American Civil War, traditional slave foods like fried chicken, watermelon, and chitterlings have suffered a strong association with African American stereotypes and blackface minstrelsy.[10] This was commercialized for the first half of the 20th century by restaurants like Sambo's and *** Chicken Inn, which selected exaggerated depictions of blacks as mascots, implying quality by their association with the stereotype. Although also being acknowledged positively as "soul food" today, the affinity that African American culture has for fried chicken has been considered a delicate, often pejorative issue. While the perception of fried chicken as an ethnic dish has been fading for several decades, with the ubiquity of fried chicken dishes in the US, it persists as a racial stereotype.[12][13][14][15]
 
Fish said:
TaylorMade Quote: "Sergio Garcia’s recent comment was offensive & in no way aligns with TaylorMade-adidas Golf’s values & corporate culture."

Could he now have bigger problems with a main sponsor?
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This suprises me it looks like a total over reaction from TM and it makes Sergio look guilty of any wrong doing,not a good decision from TM at all.
 
Anything remotely associated with Racism is such dangerous ground that I just can't believe Sergio's gotten involved. I know we all say things in the heat of the moment, but as a professional athlete, and especially one of his experience, you've got to know that the press are hanging on every word. What's more, in this case, the press have got exactly what they were looking for. They've persisted in asking both Sergio and Tiger questions about it hoping for some sort of headline quote and Sergio's handed it them on a plate. If he'd have answered in the way that Tiger did ("no"), then there's a chance it might have all died down by now.
 
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jimbob.someroo said:
but I suspect that if you actually asked Tiger or any African-American if they were offended by the comment, many would not be. Although, as is often the case, I may be wrong.
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Tiger has already been quoted saying he found it "hurtful and clearly inappropriate". Tiger will use this whether that is true or not to get at Sergio.
 
Fish said:
Tiger has already been quoted saying he found it "hurtful and clearly inappropriate". Tiger will use this whether that is true or not to get at Sergio.
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And so he should, can you even imagine if this was the other way round. I don't understand why Sergio would even try to make a rivalry with Woods as he is miles away in terms of skill and success. It's like a poodle taking on a Alsatian :rofl:
 
wasn't the ''fried chicken'' thing on that opening scene on ''me, myself and irene when the midget is fighting with jim carry

i think he says ''you know how us brothers just loooooooooove fired chicken'' great film
 
what sergio should have said was"yes i will ask him round and have already arranged the hookers and skanky waitreses,as well as a copy of the rule book and a few spittoons," the question that should be asked is did sergio know his comment could be deemed as having racist undertones,is it common knowledge in spain,in the 70's i had a golliwog head cover (you can still get the dolls) is that racist or just bad taste,the americans are the the most racist country in the world so to stir up a fuss over a stupid humorous comment is laughable.
 
6inchcup said:
what sergio should have said was"yes i will ask him round and have already arranged the hookers and skanky waitreses,as well as a copy of the rule book and a few spittoons," the question that should be asked is did sergio know his comment could be deemed as having racist undertones,is it common knowledge in spain,in the 70's i had a golliwog head cover (you can still get the dolls) is that racist or just bad taste,the americans are the the most racist country in the world so to stir up a fuss over a stupid humorous comment is laughable.
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It's not humorous.
If he didn't mean it then picking fried chicken is just too much of a coincidence don't you think. The Suarez defence isn't really a defence.
 
"Most importantly, I want to apologize to Tiger. I feel sick about it. I'm truly, truly sorry. I hope that we can settle things down and hopefully move on."

Sergio Oh Sergio.........why didn't you take your own advice 2 weeks ago. :whistle:

Rookie mistake from an veteran.
 
stevie_r said:
It's not humorous.
If he didn't mean it then picking fried chicken is just too much of a coincidence don't you think. The Suarez defence isn't really a defence.
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what is the difference in sergio saying fried chicken and the countless times that the term chicken rice n peas said by white comedians in an afro caribbean voice is heard on the tv,you have to take things in context,my opinion is he tried to make a joke and it hasn't worked,nothing more and nothing less.
 
Think both their moral compasses are way off, nonetheless a poor comment by Garcia, he must know the infamy of the Zoeller comment and said it anyway. Very stupid and crass but not sure if a food comment is actually racist. Haven't forgotten the 'gobbing in the cup' by him a few years ago.
Zoeller got in bother not so much for the fried chicken/collared greens quip but more so for saying ......" or whatever it is they eat".... the 'they' being the particularly racist and offensive part.
 
6inchcup said:
what is the difference in sergio saying fried chicken and the countless times that the term chicken rice n peas said by white comedians in an afro caribbean voice is heard on the tv,you have to take things in context,my opinion is he tried to make a joke and it hasn't worked,nothing more and nothing less.
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Now I can't say I've heard that joked about by any comedian, I'm not being difficult - I haven't (I suppose you would have to have been there, it doesn't particularly funny anyway). It sounds about as cringeworthy as 'Love thy Neigbour' - remember that little comedy gem?

But:

1. Sergio directed the remark specifically at a named individual.
2. In the US it is perceived to be a racial slur to connect Afro-American and fried chicken - daft yes I know but it is.
3. Finally, when will a number of individuals on this forum get it through their heads that with racism (and a few other 'isms') not meaning to cause offence is not a defence - it is not how the remark was intended but how it is received. You simply cannot make a remark of that type and then come out with 'sorry if that caused offence, didn't mean to, just having a joke'.
 
I don't agree,total over reaction but then he does write for the Telegraph.....:rolleyes:

CORRIGAN SAYS TOURS SHOULD HAVE BANNED GARCIA FROM THIS WEEK'S CHAMPIONSHIP

Sergio Garcia, escaped unpunished for racist remark about Tiger Woods.

FROM THE DAILY TELEGRAPH WEBSITE
By JAMES CORRIGAN
Sergio García should not be playing in the first round of the BMW PGA Championship at Wentworth on Thursday.
García should be sitting in a room far away – perhaps even laid out on a couch – reflecting on a remark which he first intended to be “funny”, then wished to be viewed as “silly”, but which Tiger Woods rightly described as “hurtful, wrong and wholly inappropriate”.
The Spaniard should have been told to withdraw from the European Tour’s flagship event. Instead, he informed a packed press conference on Wednesday that he had not even been fined by this Tour or the US PGA Tour.
Incredible, isn’t it? Golfers are routinely hit with £5,000 sanctions for throwing clubs around. But throw a racist jibe across a room containing 300 guests, causing offence on a much wider level, and all the professional has to do is apologise and appear contrite.
And golf wonders about its reputation.
It is insulting to cast some of the officials involved as middle-class white men turning the other way. But it is their fault that perception is inevitable.
Let us consider what has happened to Woods since he supposedly broke down all those barriers at the 1997 Masters. He had not even finished making that history when Fuzzy Zoeller made the original “fried chicken” wisecrack.
Zoeller paid for his comments – which were only “made in jest” – by losing contracts and his form. The poor lamb.
 
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