Remembrance day 2017 - will you bother

[User2021]

One of the difficulties is that this generation will be the first where their grandparents did not fight in the war. My grandad did but my kids grandad did not, he did national service after it was over. They don't have that that same connection, hear the same stories that we did. My FiL talking about having an easy time in Nottingham is not the same as dodging bombs in France or Belgium

The recent conflicts, Afghanistan and Iraq, have also both been political and controversial. Not the fault of the forces and as younger people get more mature they will realise the role that they play.

We have to talk and educate the new generation, not just bark at them for not following our traditions.

Totally agree

 

[jim8flog]

I always contribute to the 'pot'.

As to the two minutes silence or watching the local parade depends on my memory for time and date. I do if I remember.

 

[Piece]

I haven’t attended any parade since my cubs days but always have a poppy and my youngsters know exactly why and when at this time of year.

 

[Kellfire]

Don’t wear a poppy. Don’t make a point of observing the silence unless I’m asleep.

I also had to remind a member of staff at work recently that wearing the poppy was a contentious issue and that I couldn’t condone their wearing of it, though I didn’t ask them to remove it either. Their choice.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Don’t wear a poppy. Don’t make a point of observing the silence unless I’m asleep.

I also had to remind a member of staff at work recently that wearing the poppy was a contentious issue and that I couldn’t condone their wearing of it, though I didn’t ask them to remove it either. Their choice.

What a load of utter crap! contentious for who? Psychologically bullied one of your staff then? Is it a company policy or one you chose to impose on your own.

 

[Hobbit]

What a load of utter crap! contentious for who? Psychologically bullied one of your staff then? Is it a company policy or one you chose to impose on your own.

I've deleted my response twice. It would be a life ban. I have no problem with people choosing whatever they want, and wouldn't criticise their choice. Nor would I impose my beliefs on them, after all it is freedoms that people fight for.

Smacks of the FIFA ban or the British Airways crucifix issue. I'd be very surprised if it was Trust policy, and if it isn't if I was an employee I'd be putting in a formal grievance against the jobs worth...

 

[Old Skier]

Don’t wear a poppy. Don’t make a point of observing the silence unless I’m asleep.

I also had to remind a member of staff at work recently that wearing the poppy was a contentious issue and that I couldn’t condone their wearing of it, though I didn’t ask them to remove it either. Their choice.

Got your reaction then, only I don't believe you.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Don’t wear a poppy. Don’t make a point of observing the silence unless I’m asleep.

I also had to remind a member of staff at work recently that wearing the poppy was a contentious issue and that I couldn’t condone their wearing of it, though I didn’t ask them to remove it either. Their choice.

So do you in any way respect the millions who put their lives on the line during the two world wars - which is ultimately what the minute silence is there to remember

 

[Old Skier]

On the Hoe with a very larg contingent of tankies and back for the last post at 1800 hrs and we have the Tower Poppy display.

Members of the RTR have their own March to the Cenotaph next week and we will be enjoying the hospitality of London over the weekend.

 

[dewsweeper]

Town Cenotaph tomorrow.
I have no relations killed in any of the conflicts of the last century or this one.
I am ex army but I and Margaret go because we can , due in part to their service.
Don't expect all to attend or remember .

 

[Old Skier]

Don't expect all to attend or remember .

Quite agree but it does seem that the youth of Belgium, France and Holland seem to get far more involved than the youth of the UK.

 

[bluewolf]

Always donate and mostly wear the poppy but occasionally forget.

However, I'm quite conscious of the fact that both sides of the political spectrum are now using the poppy as a political symbol which I find offensive in the extreme. If I see one more social media post attacking someone for either wearing or not wearing the poppy then I might just explode.

 

[Kellfire]

What a load of utter crap! contentious for?

Many. Myself included

So do you in any way respect the millions who put their lives on the line during the two world wars - which is ultimately what the minute silence is there to remember

Yes. But not in a way that makes me obey a blanket silence. I know too many service men whose intentions are anything but admirable.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Many. Myself included



Yes. But not in a way that makes me obey a blanket silence. I know too many service men whose intentions are anything but admirable.

What servicemen you know that may not have intentions that you admire have zero relevance to the reason why people pause for a minute and reflect about those millions that put their lives on the line to allow you the freedom i expect you take for granted. The very least those brave man and ladies deserve from us is to be silent just for two minutes , you don have to wear a poppy or donate money but being silent even if its so that others can reflect is just common decency and respect .

 

[Kellfire]

What servicemen you know that may not have intentions that you admire have zero relevance to the reason why people pause for a minute and reflect about those millions that put their lives on the line to allow you the freedom i expect you take for granted. The very least those brave man and ladies deserve from us is to be silent just for two minutes , you don have to wear a poppy or donate money but being silent even if its so that others can reflect is just common decency and respect .

I disagree. And if you can’t accept that, you’re everything you don’t accept in your own two silence.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I disagree. And if you can’t accept that, you’re everything you don’t accept in your own two silence.

And yet you chose to put yourself first when confronting one of your members of staff, what about you respecting them?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I disagree. And if you can’t accept that, you’re everything you don’t accept in your own two silence.

So you don’t think millions who died to allow you to live in a free world don’t deserve the respect of a bit of silence.

Maybe some don’t deserve that freedoms I guess

 

[Kellfire]

So you don’t think millions who died to allow you to live in a free world don’t deserve the respect of a bit of silence.

No. That criteria is not enough for me.

I accept it is for others.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Festival of Remembrance currently on BBC1 getting it right on the mark. :thup:

 

[Wilson]

Don’t wear a poppy. Don’t make a point of observing the silence unless I’m asleep.

I also had to remind a member of staff at work recently that wearing the poppy was a contentious issue and that I couldn’t condone their wearing of it, though I didn’t ask them to remove it either. Their choice.

I’d be interested to know why it’s a contentious issue for you personally? Does your employer have a view on wearing them, or were you passing on your personal views to the member of staff?