Rate my driver swing: Should I get rid of my overswing?

[turkish]

I have a massive overswing which I've never really been able to get rid of. I think this causes me to be quite steep as it's hard to re-route from that position.

Been working a lot on driver as it's been biggest downfall for me for years and finally getting a functional shot out of my swing. my main issue was over the top swing which to a small degree I still do but my swing now far more on plane than before. I'm relatively ok with control of clubface so when things go awry is usually path issue.

I would love to shallow my swing though to try & eliminate the over the top swings and have tried almost every drill I can find on youtube and from lessons too but is something I just can't see to do- my swing has always been fairly steep... though even with this I still seem to hit the ball slightly up (about 1-2 degrees up on quad).

If I could get a more laid off and shorter swing do you think I could achieve a shallower downswing?

Another issue of mine is release; I'm still a bit chicken wingy and think I have a fear of my clubface going left through impact. Right now not too worried about that but know it's something I should probably work on.

My mate took a video of me yesterday- this was me trying to compete with him on longest drive- I wasn't far away. Think this is a stronger grip then my usual though sometimes I do slip back to this.

 

[User 99]

Have you been watching a lot of Crossfields vids ?

 

[turkish]

I watch his videos now and again just like the rest of youtube?

 

[patricks148]

my only observation for the first video is..... pull you trousers up

 

[bobmac]

You look very tense/tight at address.
As for the overswing, I don't see a problem and what chicken wing?

 

[turkish]

Thanks bob.... lol that’s me trying to be relaxed/loose 🙈 tension was always usually my problem which caused me to rush from top so guess I’ve still more work to do on that.

Every pro I’ve went to say have said the same thing re the overswing. I just think if I was more laid off would be easier to be shallow? I’m hitting drives ok generally the now so if it’s going to muck all the work done up I won’t change. I just hate when it’s off for the day as those horrible high spinny drives wreck cards.

As for chicken wing I’ve put a couple of shots below:

 

[bobmac]

I wouldn't worry too much.
To me a chicken wing is when the left arm/elbow pulls the club left into impact. You have a slight bend AFTER impact so doesn't really affect the ball.

The high spinny ones are normally when you drive your legs too soon.
The upper body/club get left behind and you can't square up the clubface in time.
Try and resist hitting the power too soon and that should improve your timing

 

[turkish]

Oh really? I always thought it was the opposite as I used to turn all at once when I rushed it (Legs, torso, hands, arms) which caused my sequencing to be way out, massive over the top swing chopping down on it which caused the spinny slices? So I've been working hard on keeping hands behind for longer and the feeling my hands are coming in lower and later (don't look anywhere near what I'm feeling in video) then just making sure I square clubface

 

[bobmac]

Oh really? I always thought it was the opposite as I used to turn all at once when I rushed it (Legs, torso, hands, arms) which caused my sequencing to be way out, massive over the top swing chopping down on it which caused the spinny slices? So I've been working hard on keeping hands behind for longer and the feeling my hands are coming in lower and later (don't look anywhere near what I'm feeling in video) then just making sure I square clubface

If you start driving and turning the lower half at the top of that backswing, you'll throw the club and come steep into the ball every time
If you imagine the downswing starting at the top and then your lower half turning, you'll keep the club online better

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Oh really? I always thought it was the opposite as I used to turn all at once when I rushed it (Legs, torso, hands, arms) which caused my sequencing to be way out, massive over the top swing chopping down on it which caused the spinny slices? So I've been working hard on keeping hands behind for longer and the feeling my hands are coming in lower and later (don't look anywhere near what I'm feeling in video) then just making sure I square clubface

I learned my golf in the 70's when the leg drive was prevalent (look at Seve, Miller, Howard Clarke and many others) and so to try and learn a more modern method hasn't been easy. I overswing and I've put many videos on here (and my youtube channel) and it's obvious how steep I get the shaft on the way down caused exactly as Bob describes. My one change this winter, and it's going to be so hard, is to shallow the swing by changing the way I sync the downswing. I've already found by default, a better one piece take-away and giving myself time to drop/shallow the club has led to a shorter swing and so already given myself more time to get the club in a better position. The good are good, but when I go back to driving the legs the bads ones are as bad as ever. Good luck with your own efforts