mikee66
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Any gamers on here?
If so what are you going for?
If so what are you going for?
Ps4 or Xbox one?
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StrangelyBrown
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PS4 for me. No reason specifically, but I've had every other iteration of Playstation and been happy with each one.
diablo333
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I've had other PlayStations before and prefer the Playstation plus format over Microsoft points.
I've had Playstations since they came out............When I bought the PS3 I found it lacking and sent it back, tried XBOX360 which I would never entertain before and find it so much better than the PS for user friendliness, content, online content etc and the Kinect is light years ahead of the PS hand held things, the new Kinect will be out soon also.
The gadget show did a test and the XBOX came out better overall for families.
P.S I'm firmly in the PC camp for FPS games though.....BF3 or BF4 anyone?
The gadget show did a test and the XBOX came out better overall for families.
P.S I'm firmly in the PC camp for FPS games though.....BF3 or BF4 anyone?
Which tree did that hit
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It's the ONE for me, have a 360 currently and will not be able to get over Halo 5 if I get the PS4.
Titanfall has just been announced as Xbox exclusive also and of course Ryse which looks the bees knees
Titanfall has just been announced as Xbox exclusive also and of course Ryse which looks the bees knees
GB72
Money List Winner
The new Kinect is bundled with the Xbox One
For me it is going to be the Xbox One. I know that the pre-release comments seem to favour the PS4 as the better cosole at the moment but I have gone with Xbox since the first one and just prefer it in general. The menus are easier to navigate and, most importantly, the controller just fits my hands perfectly.
I started out with a Playstation but when I bought a PS2 I was just underwhelmed. It did not feel like a leap forward in the same way that the Xbox did when I fired up Halo for the first time. Same with the PS3.
My wife is meant to be sorting me one for my Birthday in December so just hoping that she has got a pre-order in (or even better spoken to her brother who works at Microsoft to see if she can get hold of the limited edition, staff only white one).
Rooter
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I played forza 5 last week at an exhibition on the Xbox one. it was amazing! some of the stuff the system can do is also pretty amazing, no idea how true all this is, but the guy from microsoft told me.....
1. the Kinect sensor does not only facial and voice recognition, but it can also detect mood etc. so for example, you are playing FIFA and getting beaten and getting frustrated, it will go easy on you for bit.. You are playing COD and you are finding it too easy, it will throw a load of baddies at you, or vice versa, you are getting too scared it will go easy.
2. It also can detect your kids, so you set them all up with a profile and it will only allow content for their age. even smarter, say for example i am playing GTA and being a badass, my 4yr old walks in, the xbox will spot him, pause the game and ask me if i want to continue with him in the room!
3. Other cool stuff, like voice recognition for turning the TV over, flick from TV to Game while something is downloading, then flick back auto when its ready..
Loads of other cool stuff, but i was pretty blown away by it!
1. the Kinect sensor does not only facial and voice recognition, but it can also detect mood etc. so for example, you are playing FIFA and getting beaten and getting frustrated, it will go easy on you for bit.. You are playing COD and you are finding it too easy, it will throw a load of baddies at you, or vice versa, you are getting too scared it will go easy.
2. It also can detect your kids, so you set them all up with a profile and it will only allow content for their age. even smarter, say for example i am playing GTA and being a badass, my 4yr old walks in, the xbox will spot him, pause the game and ask me if i want to continue with him in the room!
3. Other cool stuff, like voice recognition for turning the TV over, flick from TV to Game while something is downloading, then flick back auto when its ready..
Loads of other cool stuff, but i was pretty blown away by it!
GB72
Money List Winner
Just seen the demo for the Xbox dashboard on Youtube. Incredible how you can switch from a game to answering skpe calls, to web browsing and back again all seamlessly and through voice activation.
Rooter
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Ahh yeh, the final thing for me!!!! Proper Skype integration!!! i used to use my 360 with the kinect and use MSN messenger for video calls with my folks in France, they stopped it on the last update and i was fuming!!
Proper skype on my TV, Awesome.
Proper skype on my TV, Awesome.
GB72
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This is a large part of the new generation. The battle is not the games but is to be the smart box sitting under every tv that plays your DVDS, streams your Netflix films, is used for Skype and web browsing etc.
Piece
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I'll be getting the PS4 as I have all the other versions.
I'm not a serious gamer so all the online and Kinect/Move stuff doesn't matter that much to me.
I'm sure both consoles will be brilliant...
I'm not a serious gamer so all the online and Kinect/Move stuff doesn't matter that much to me.
I'm sure both consoles will be brilliant...
G1BB0
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xbox one for me, I am a pc gamer through and through but wont be upgrading it anymore so bf4 is out and going console only. I admit FPS games are pants with a pad however so may have to buy a XIM or something 
I will have a cheapo laptop for dloading torrents etc
I will have a cheapo laptop for dloading torrents etc
srixon 1
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I stopped gaming when my Sega MegaDrive 2 went out of fashion. Still got it in the loft somewhere.
I must admit though, when I go round to friends houses and their kids are playing games the graphics look amazing. The games have certainly come a long way since Sonic the Hedgehog
I must admit though, when I go round to friends houses and their kids are playing games the graphics look amazing. The games have certainly come a long way since Sonic the Hedgehog
[video=youtube_share;_1mfIg1I3zE]http://youtu.be/_1mfIg1I3zE[/video]
ScienceBoy
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Wouldn't touch a console with a barge pole... Unless its a steam box 
Darn casuals!
PC ALL THE WAY BABY!
Darn casuals!
PC ALL THE WAY BABY!
G.U.R
Head Pro
Had a PS1 which I won at work, now have a wii that the kids play on ok I have a couple of Tiger Woods games...not really a gamer as such though, never seem to have the time.
Scrindle
Head Pro
[Geek warning]
As pre-release industry and feedback comments currently stand, the PS4 is the only way to go currently for a next gen console. The Wii U can of course be discarded as being current gen.
On paper the PS4 is approximately 40-50% more powerful than the XB1. In practical terms this appears to be equating to a 20-30% power increase. This stems from the original research process. When development started on both consoles, GDDR5 RAM (the stuff used in graphics cards - much, much faster than the stuff on your PC motherboard) was not available in blocks larger than 2GB. Sony was happy to settle for this amount and therefore put all its R&D budget into a more powerful graphics card. MS, tempted by the lure of being able to offer developers more RAM which ultimately is more useful, were adamant that they would use more of it. The only way for them to do this was to have a 32mb block of extremely fast ES RAM on the CPU to act as a buffer between it, and they didn't concentrate very much on the graphics card. Closer to reveal, some people pioneered a way to achieve 8GB blocks of GDDR 5. Sony simply slapped this onto their already existing architecture which became combined with a powerful graphics card. MS were not able to do this because of they way their console had originally been designed to work to enable more RAM to be used and have had to come up with a strange work around. The situation now is that both consoles have 8 GB, Sony has a more powerful graphics card and the 32mb of ES RAM MS has on the CPU is acting as a bottleneck (sadface).
What does this mean practically? It means that in the 2 launch titles we currently know the most about from a technical perspective (Battlefield 4 and Call of Duty Ghosts), the PS4 has demonstrated that it is far superior. on BF4 it has a few advanced effects that XB1 currently doesn't have and is more detailed. It also runs at a higher resolution. The developers have tried to mask this on the XB1 version by upping the black levels and bloom to insane levels in an effort to make it look artificially more detailed, which has fooled some people.
In COD: Ghosts, the PS4 version is rendered natively in 1080p (full HD) with the XB1 version only being rendered in 720p (and upscaled to 1080p) because the system is not capabale of rendering the game at 60 frames per second at the higher resolution unfortunately.
From a longetivity perspective, this means that from information we currently have all multiplatform games are likely to look better on PS4. PS4 exclusives will be insanely superior to XB1 exclusives from a graphical perspective. Towards the end of the generation in say 5 years time after the developers have learnt to squeeze all they're able to out of the console hardware, the gap will expand.
This is a shame from my perspective because I really like my Xbox and was hoping to buy MS's next console, but from currently available information it would appear that to buy anything other than the PS4 would be lunacy from an investment perspective. MS have really dropped the ball this time round and I think we're going to see the same situation happening as with the last generation (i.e. PS2 dominating the marketplace completely), except that this time Sony don't have the inferior product.
Both consoles currently have their online capabilities screwed anyway, because of the removal of used game blocking from the consoles!! Ooops.
As pre-release industry and feedback comments currently stand, the PS4 is the only way to go currently for a next gen console. The Wii U can of course be discarded as being current gen.
On paper the PS4 is approximately 40-50% more powerful than the XB1. In practical terms this appears to be equating to a 20-30% power increase. This stems from the original research process. When development started on both consoles, GDDR5 RAM (the stuff used in graphics cards - much, much faster than the stuff on your PC motherboard) was not available in blocks larger than 2GB. Sony was happy to settle for this amount and therefore put all its R&D budget into a more powerful graphics card. MS, tempted by the lure of being able to offer developers more RAM which ultimately is more useful, were adamant that they would use more of it. The only way for them to do this was to have a 32mb block of extremely fast ES RAM on the CPU to act as a buffer between it, and they didn't concentrate very much on the graphics card. Closer to reveal, some people pioneered a way to achieve 8GB blocks of GDDR 5. Sony simply slapped this onto their already existing architecture which became combined with a powerful graphics card. MS were not able to do this because of they way their console had originally been designed to work to enable more RAM to be used and have had to come up with a strange work around. The situation now is that both consoles have 8 GB, Sony has a more powerful graphics card and the 32mb of ES RAM MS has on the CPU is acting as a bottleneck (sadface).
What does this mean practically? It means that in the 2 launch titles we currently know the most about from a technical perspective (Battlefield 4 and Call of Duty Ghosts), the PS4 has demonstrated that it is far superior. on BF4 it has a few advanced effects that XB1 currently doesn't have and is more detailed. It also runs at a higher resolution. The developers have tried to mask this on the XB1 version by upping the black levels and bloom to insane levels in an effort to make it look artificially more detailed, which has fooled some people.
In COD: Ghosts, the PS4 version is rendered natively in 1080p (full HD) with the XB1 version only being rendered in 720p (and upscaled to 1080p) because the system is not capabale of rendering the game at 60 frames per second at the higher resolution unfortunately.
From a longetivity perspective, this means that from information we currently have all multiplatform games are likely to look better on PS4. PS4 exclusives will be insanely superior to XB1 exclusives from a graphical perspective. Towards the end of the generation in say 5 years time after the developers have learnt to squeeze all they're able to out of the console hardware, the gap will expand.
This is a shame from my perspective because I really like my Xbox and was hoping to buy MS's next console, but from currently available information it would appear that to buy anything other than the PS4 would be lunacy from an investment perspective. MS have really dropped the ball this time round and I think we're going to see the same situation happening as with the last generation (i.e. PS2 dominating the marketplace completely), except that this time Sony don't have the inferior product.
Both consoles currently have their online capabilities screwed anyway, because of the removal of used game blocking from the consoles!! Ooops.
Beezerk
Money List Winner
I'll wait until they come down in price next year.
Was an Xbox fanboy until I had 2 360's RROD on me within 24 hours. Managed to fix both but put me off big time.
Currently play a PS3 (both 360's have been boxed up for a couple of years) and love it so I'll probably go PS4 next time.
One of the main draws for Xbox is Halo which I happen to think is THE most overrated game of all time, GTA is a close second
Was an Xbox fanboy until I had 2 360's RROD on me within 24 hours. Managed to fix both but put me off big time.
Currently play a PS3 (both 360's have been boxed up for a couple of years) and love it so I'll probably go PS4 next time.
One of the main draws for Xbox is Halo which I happen to think is THE most overrated game of all time, GTA is a close second
where did you copy 'n' paste this from?
You've ignored the Kinect bar which is quite exceptional compared to Sony's hand held dumb bells.
I've seen footage of PS4 XBONE and PC running BF4, the PC wins obviously but theres no discernible difference in the consoles in viewing or gameplay as far as I or anyone else reporting can see.
Scrindle
Head Pro
I didn't copy and paste it, I wrote it and it is factually correct. People who say there is no discernable difference between the two need to look more closely. As I stated above, the developers are doing a good job at hiding the flaws in the XB1 version by increasing black levels and bloom but the lack of detail is obvious to anyone comparing still screens, and will be obvious to anyone looking at the consoles running in real time, rather than on video recordings that blur detail due to compression techniques.
In any event, factual hardware differences cannot be argued with. It has been known for some time on paper that the PS4 is superior from a hardware perspective, the only question being how much this would translate to in practical terms and whether developers would hardlock PS4 games to run at the same level as XB1 variants on multiplatform releases out of Sony/MS loyalty politics (for BF4 and COD: Ghosts at least - EA and Activision being the largest 3rd party publishers in the games industry by a long way - they have decided not to do this, which is interesting but also unfortunate for MS really).
If you're attracted to purchasing a console for its potential to allow you to wave your arms around in the air and pretend you're getting some exercise, fair play to you - personally Kinect and Sony's equivalent doesn't interest me in the slightest. I purchase hardware based on technological superiority and likely market domination. PS4 is the clear winner in the former and I suspect the latter will also be the case (pre-orders for the PS4 certainly outweight the XB1 by quite a distance and that's before the new information has come to light).
When it comes down to it it is your money so buy what you prefer; if you enjoy using Kinetc then go for it. Bear in mind, however, that there is already a confirmed hardware gap between the consoles, XB1 is rumoured to not be able to output natively rendered 1080p content (due to COD: Ghosts not being a particularly intensive game but the XB1 version being rendered at 720p with PS4 being at full 1080) and MS is charging more for it.
Be interesting to see what the landscape is like a year after release to be honest. I think MS may end up leaving a large enough hole in the market for Valve to successfully enter and take a sizeable share with the Steambox, but we'll see.
