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The problem is that discussions like this happen at all. And that they happen only about women's sport. It should not be about what female golfers look like. It should be about how well they play the game. Shanshan Feng absolutely demolished the field in Dubai last weekend. She won by a twelve shot lead. And all everyone talks about is Paige (and I am not blaming her for this, it is not her fault at all). It is a bit maddening.
 
Capella said:
The problem is that discussions like this happen at all. And that they happen only about women's sport. It should not be about what female golfers look like.
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I completely disagree as already pointed out with remarks about John Daly and Monty (both of whom carry a set of moobs). We like to slate fat, ugly men as much as we do the likes of the 'Laura Davies type'.

The fact that the forum is mainly men means that we are bound to comment on the looks of pretty girls as would a ladies netball forum talk about handsome chaps.

All us men have already duly noted on the forum (several times) that Stenson is apparently a bit of a dish :p
 
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Capella said:
The problem is that discussions like this happen at all. And that they happen only about women's sport. It should not be about what female golfers look like. It should be about how well they play the game. Shanshan Feng absolutely demolished the field in Dubai last weekend. She won by a twelve shot lead. And all everyone talks about is Paige (and I am not blaming her for this, it is not her fault at all). It is a bit maddening.
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Agree 100%. It's very rare to get a thread on here about women's golf that doesn't descend into sexism and homophobia, as this one has. Hard to believe the forum actually has rules against such posts.
 
FairwayDodger said:
Agree 100%. It's very rare to get a thread on here about women's golf that doesn't descend into sexism and homophobia, as this one has. Hard to believe the forum actually has rules against such posts.
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Didn't a female forumer recently say she'd like Henrik Stenson in nothing but a bow?
No problem with that tho I suppose.
 
Capella said:
The problem is that discussions like this happen at all. And that they happen only about women's sport. It should not be about what female golfers look like. It should be about how well they play the game. Shanshan Feng absolutely demolished the field in Dubai last weekend. She won by a twelve shot lead. And all everyone talks about is Paige (and I am not blaming her for this, it is not her fault at all). It is a bit maddening.
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I did consider putting a post on here about Shanshan Feng's phenomenal performance in beating a good quality field by 12 strokes, but somehow never got round to doing so! :)
 
Golf is becoming a sport for athletes (there are obvious exceptions) and athletes by definition have better bodies than the average person, the majority of clothing in the men's game has also become a lot slimmer fitting. I think this is probably true in most sports, sex sells but it is only feather in the bow of sports marketing.

To be fair sex is possibly the only way to sell womens golf to men, as in every other aspect the men's game is far far superior.
 
freddielong said:
To be fair sex is possibly the only way to sell womens golf to men, as in every other aspect the men's game is far far superior.
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Do you honestly think so? Seriously? As I see it, the only thing the guys are superior in is to hit the ball further on average. If you factor that out, the women's game is every bit as good. Golf is not a long drive competition.
 
I really don't get the problem with any of this.

I work in a female dominated working environment and a few of my female colleagues go all gooey over some of the male golfers - Adam Scott certainly sends their pulses racing.

Rory and Tiger get invites to certain events so the organisers and sponsors can get more publicity.

Sadly I think this is being blown out of proportion because Paige is very attractive - and even those who say she isn't to their tastes must still be aware of the allure for others - in exactly the same way we may grudgingly admire Adam Scott's good looks.

Comments made by Paige around the time of the event demonstrate at least that she was honoured to have been invited, was keen to tee it up and although she might not have made the cut her score was by no means a disgrace for her first professional world stage tournament.
 
IMO its our own inbuilt prejudices that are even making this an issue.
 
Capella said:
Do you honestly think so? Seriously? As I see it, the only thing the guys are superior in is to hit the ball further on average. If you factor that out, the women's game is every bit as good. Golf is not a long drive competition.
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Sorry but that's not true, you only need to hang around a few top level men's and women's events to see the big gulf in skill and talent.
The men hit it better, more consistently better, they are much more creative around the greens and their short game is better.
 
Capella said:
Do you honestly think so? Seriously? As I see it, the only thing the guys are superior in is to hit the ball further on average. If you factor that out, the women's game is every bit as good. Golf is not a long drive competition.
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Imho yes and for me it's not close.

For me the women's game feels like watching the us pga 35 years ago, punt it down the fairway, punt it onto the green and the best putter wins. Sorry it's boring, I do admit watching occasionally when Lexi Thompson or Mel Reid are in the hunt but that's not so much for golfing reasons.
 
This could deteriorate but here goes. Is there anyone in the womens game who can hit shots like Rory or Bubba? Big draws, fades. Dramatic shots to get you out of trouble. Anyone with a short game like Phil? I'm sorry but it is equivalent to mens and womens tennis. They are a mile apart in terms of quality.

This does not mean that the womens game can not be enjoyed or appreciated but in terms of spectacle it just is not there.
 
Whatever next.... women are as good at boxing as men? Let's see that one as an 'equal opportunities' option :thup:

Some people are so blinded by their feminist attitude that they can't see the wood for the trees.
 
Capella said:
The problem is that discussions like this happen at all. And that they happen only about women's sport. It should not be about what female golfers look like. It should be about how well they play the game. Shanshan Feng absolutely demolished the field in Dubai last weekend. She won by a twelve shot lead. And all everyone talks about is Paige (and I am not blaming her for this, it is not her fault at all). It is a bit maddening.
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Whilst I agree with a lot of your sentiment, it has never been totally about how people play the game. People with personality, who give good interview and who have a recognisable image (which today is as much gained by social media as the old traditional methods) always tend to gain more publicity than those that are just good at the game.

Not saying it is right or wrong but who will inspire socially media obsessed kids more to get into the game? An admittedly very skillful but character wise very dull South Korean/Chinese golfing robot, or someone with a lot of social media followers and a personality. Ideally I'd argue you need both, but golf needs to be aware of what type of person kids will be interested in and will engage them. Which is what I think they are doing in this case. And just saying it is skill and nothing else is unfortunately not enough in todays world.

And perhaps there may be a theory that if you do reach the top of your sport then chances are you will be a bit dull, as you will have had to sacrifice basically growing up and interacting like a normal person in favour of constant practice to get there.
 
I don't think that's 100% true

The biggest names in golf right now in the men's and ladies game are also the best golfers

Spieth , McIlroy

Ko, Park , Lewis , Thompson

In the UK for the Ladies its Hull and still Davies

Both Spieth and McIlory aren't exactly what you call charismatic and Ko isn't all over social media etc

But outside golfers they will know those names as opposed to others that have gained popularity via social media
 
Rickie Fowler.

More famous than many more successful golfers due to social media and appealing to the youth market.

I think he is talented and will win majors but to date his fame has far outstripped his success.
 
Jimaroid said:
Except that's not the same. Rory and Tiger earned those invites by first becoming the best at their sport.
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Only one person can be 'the best' and Tiger is far far away from that right now - he gets invited based on past glory so I don't see a huge difference between inviting Tiger along for his past glories to raise publicity levels or inviting an attractive new-comer to boost publicity.

Even with Rory I'm sure there is an element of interest in wondering if Rory will bring his A game along and romp to victory or will he disappear at the cut or withdraw with tooth ache?

Sorry, I disagree - it's exactly the same thing, it's just a different gender and therefore includes all of the gender bias that exists in the world (and I'n not saying gender bias is a good or bad thing - simply pointing out that it exists).
 
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