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Hacker Khan said:
There's plenty and it is not beyond the wit and wisdom of the many people in charge of running or sponsoring the game to use some of them. Here's some good ideas that I know is focusing on getting kids interested but I think it also applies to the general viewing public. http://www.thegolfpaper.co.uk/in-the-golf-paper/1339/its-time-for-golf-to-switch-on-to-the-kids/
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I would have to say no to most of those formats bar more team matchplay but it won't happen as the calendar is jam packed as it is
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I would have to say no to most of those formats bar more team matchplay but it won't happen as the calendar is jam packed as it is
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I think the problem is that most people in golf say no to anything other than 72 hole strokeplay and fear change. Hopefully Pelley, with the support of people like Chubby, is a bit more proactive and can see some opportunities. As I doubt Fincham will ever do anything that does not directly involve the leading pros in the US getting more prize money.

And again it is not beyond the wit and wisdom of man to create some space by getting rid of a few of the dull tournaments that very few people care about, have little or no kudos but are mostly there for the players to top up their pension pot. Just because a pro can win a million by coming first does not make it an interesting event. Apart from for the winner, and the chief exec of the sponsor who gets to present the prize and a horrible jacket to the winner I suppose.
 
Why don't we have some mixed pro competitions ? At my club a lot of the competitions are mixed. Women's golf would get more exposure on tv, assuming some of the top men and women players take part.

Set the course up so that both men and women play their 'majors' yardages. This time of the year would be ideal, when calendar is quiet.
 
delc said:
She finished the 2nd round at 12 over, so missed the cut by a mile. A bit embarrassing for all concerned! :rolleyes:
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But still beat the last Solheim Cup Captain...
It was her first Pro event.
Remember, a certain J. Rose Esq managed to miss his first 20odd cuts..
And, unless you were watching it, you don't know if, on the last few holes, she was pushing for birdies to make the cut. A simple number doesnt tell the whole story.
 
Imurg said:
But still beat the last Solheim Cup Captain...
It was her first Pro event.
Remember, a certain J. Rose Esq managed to miss his first 20odd cuts..
And, unless you were watching it, you don't know if, on the last few holes, she was pushing for birdies to make the cut. A simple number doesnt tell the whole story.
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I seem to remember that Justin was only missing the cut by the odd shot or two!
 
delc said:
I seem to remember that Justin was only missing the cut by the odd shot or two!
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Kind of irrelevant... A missed cut is a missed, by 1 or 10.
Rosie's first Euro Masters at Crans saw him miss by 6 or 7.....

Judge her when she's played a few more Pro events...
 
Despite my comments, I do have a certain amount of sympathy for her. She's obviously a good golfer with aspirations to make it as a pro and very few would turn down the invite to play in a pro event. I'd never heard of her before but have read a wee bit now and she seems to have quite a realistic idea of where her game is in relation to the tour pros and is driven to get to their level.

Anyone making their pro debut is going to be incredibly nervous. To do it in a foreign country under the glare of publicity, much of it negative, can only make it harder.

I hope she makes it, but I also hope she doesn't get any more sponsors invites until she does enough on a golf course to justify it.
 
The ladies game needs more exposure, but this is totally the wrong way to go about it.

If you have reached the pinnacle of the game on talent, then fine - use your standing to push your brand.

But for your brand to act as a queue jump into a major sporting event sends out the wrong message to aspiring youngsters.
 
jp5 said:
The ladies game needs more exposure, but this is totally the wrong way to go about it.

If you have reached the pinnacle of the game on talent, then fine - use your standing to push your brand.

But for your brand to act as a queue jump into a major sporting event sends out the wrong message to aspiring youngsters.
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The fact that this is now 7 pages long suggests that the sponsors got it 100% bang on.
 
Hacker Khan said:
I think the problem is that most people in golf say no to anything other than 72 hole strokeplay and fear change. Hopefully Pelley, with the support of people like Chubby, is a bit more proactive and can see some opportunities. As I doubt Fincham will ever do anything that does not directly involve the leading pros in the US getting more prize money.

And again it is not beyond the wit and wisdom of man to create some space by getting rid of a few of the dull tournaments that very few people care about, have little or no kudos but are mostly there for the players to top up their pension pot. Just because a pro can win a million by coming first does not make it an interesting event. Apart from for the winner, and the chief exec of the sponsor who gets to present the prize and a horrible jacket to the winner I suppose.
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It's nothing to do with "fearing change" - i don't see it needs to change and that the professional game doesn't need "gimmicky formats"

Which are the "dull tournaments" that you speak off ? Who are you suggesting "doesn't care about"

72 stroke play are the pure hardest format designed so that the best person over the 4 days wins.
 
LPGA Tour : Some cheats, a load of reasonably good Tour Pro's earning fortunes, a handful of world class exceptional golfers, and plenty earning millions selling sex appeal.

She obviously falls into one of the required categories.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Soooooooo, as my old boss would say, lets turn that one around.

Would we all be happy for a male golfer to receive the same treatment.
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Personally not bothered but I can see how it irks. Before she gets completely hammered we should see if this lady improves.

On this theme of reversing nobody picked up on this before but I am going to run with it. Large chunks of Beckhams career was about marketing. He sold shirts. His legs had gone, his benefit to the team was reducing all the time. His benefit to each club and its coffers was immense. He sold shirts by looking good, brand Beckham. Shirt off, tattoos out. Not my cup of tea but apparently it seemed to work.
 
Bottom line is, you lot are discussing this because you have heard about her - through Social Media. Therefore, the sponsor has got EXACTLY what they wanted.

every week people are handed invites to events that probably cant cut it at that level (look at the mens events in asia where the natives shoot 90+).

she has created her presence through social media despite not being an amazing talent (in relative terms). Its no different to an average PGA pro like Crossfield becoming famous.

Fair play to her, and the sponsor using their invite effectively.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Personally not bothered but I can see how it irks. Before she gets completely hammered we should see if this lady improves.

On this theme of reversing nobody picked up on this before but I am going to run with it. Large chunks of Beckhams career was about marketing. He sold shirts. His legs had gone, his benefit to the team was reducing all the time. His benefit to each club and its coffers was immense. He sold shirts by looking good, brand Beckham. Shirt off, tattoos out. Not my cup of tea but apparently it seemed to work.
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IMO Beckham was all about the marketing machine - the looks , the marrying a pop star etc. Without the looks he would have been your average Prem footballer

Agree with your first statement - let's see how she gets on.
 
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