online fitment

[kid2]

Evening all,
Have another question to be answered..
I took the Ping online fitment guide and it threw up some interesting answers.....
I put in all my measurements
Height 5' 10"
Wrist to floor 34"
Hand size 7.75in
Longest finger 3.5"
As you see im average height so most off the shelf would do me i think....It has told me that i either need stiff or extra stiff shafts which at present i use in my driver and woods.....
It also says that i need stiff shafts in my irons and that they should have a lie angle of +.75* upright with standard grips..
Is this an accurate reading and should i change from my wilsonstaff Di7's these have regular uniflex shafts I aim to change my irons after christmas and really make an impact on my game next season so im just doing a bit of homework at the moment.....
Also it has told me because i have a straight back straight through putting stroke i should be using a face balanced putter of 33.5"
Where i live there isnt any custom fit centres around me
Sorry if the post is a bit long in the tooth....

 

[birdieman]

I dont think a company as reputable and with as much to lose as Ping would dare put this DIY fitting info on their website if it wasn't fairly well researched.

If you cant be bothered with the expense and time for a fitting at a centre then it's a useful guide.

I think all its meant to do is determine a colour code for Ping clubs, not for all other brands.

I've used it and came out bog standard fitting black dot which I was happy about.

 

[kid2]

I dont think a company as reputable and with as much to lose as Ping would dare put this DIY fitting info on their website if it wasn't fairly well researched.

If you cant be bothered with the expense and time for a fitting at a centre then it's a useful guide.

I think all its meant to do is determine a colour code for Ping clubs, not for all other brands.

I've used it and came out bog standard fitting black dot which I was happy about.

Hi birdieman....
They've pegged me with a blue dot for some reason even though im average height.....
1. I dont have the money for a custom fit
2. Theres no one even close to me to do it so i think this is the way to go for the least amount of hassle

 

[SharkAttack]

I used the fitting guide before went for a fitting at a ping demo day at Turnberry. Fitting guide was quite accurate, the only change made on the day was 1.5* upright and fitting guide recommended 2.25*. The only change that has been made since is to the length of the driver shaft, shortened to 44.5".

I plan on going for a check over at Gainsborough early next year just to see if any adjustments are required as I bought the clubs after only two months back from a 15 year lay off due to injury.

 

[SharkAttack]

I dont think a company as reputable and with as much to lose as Ping would dare put this DIY fitting info on their website if it wasn't fairly well researched.

If you cant be bothered with the expense and time for a fitting at a centre then it's a useful guide.

I think all its meant to do is determine a colour code for Ping clubs, not for all other brands.

I've used it and came out bog standard fitting black dot which I was happy about.

They've pegged me with a blue dot for some reason even though im average height.....

Ping take into account lots of different things, two people the same height with different length arms would obviously require different lies. Average height doesn't mean average length clubs.

 

[kid2]

I dont think a company as reputable and with as much to lose as Ping would dare put this DIY fitting info on their website if it wasn't fairly well researched.

If you cant be bothered with the expense and time for a fitting at a centre then it's a useful guide.

I think all its meant to do is determine a colour code for Ping clubs, not for all other brands.





I've used it and came out bog standard fitting black dot which I was happy about.

They've pegged me with a blue dot for some reason even though im average height.....

Ping take into account lots of different things, two people the same height with different length arms would obviously require different lies. Average height doesn't mean average length clubs.

All good points shark attack...
It also told me that i15 or i10's would suit me but off my handicap im a bit sceptical
What do you make of me having stiff shafted irons?


Would a .75* lie angle have a big impact on the shot....?

 

[SharkAttack]

It really depends on the information you gave to the online fitting guide and how well you hit it. I10/15 are quite forgiving clubs just not as forgiving as the G10/15. Re the shafts have you given the correct distance you hit a 7 iron? It would amaze you how many people think they hit their 7 iron 180 yards, because they hit a 7 to the 180 yard par 3 tenth down hill and mainly downwind.

0.75 degrees difference would only cause a slight difference in ball flight shape. Too upright and you would get a slight draw (Heel dragging more and slightly closing the clubface) or too flat and you would get a slight fade (Toe dragging more and slightly opening the clubface). Maybe the fitting guide is trying to straighten out your shot if you told it you mainly fade the ball.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I disagree. I think the G/I15 range are a step up in terms of forgiveness and have a better flight than the G/I10 range. I really like the I15 and think they would suit most players from 20 down to single figures (being generalistic here) as they are more forgiving in my opinion than a lot of so called better player clubs.

I've never been measured via the Ping system so wouldn't know if I was average or not. I think the right flex and the right loft lie are equally important as both will have a huge impact on contact and control. If in doubt why not get your pro to let you hit your current clubs on an impact board and see how they fair first before worrying about whether you might be upright or flat

 

[kid2]

Shark attack you've hit the nail on the head when i put in my details i told them i wanted to straighten a ball flight which as you'll see below that im kinda contradicting myself as regards ball flight



Maybe im just getting slightly ahead of myself here.....I hit my Di7 very well but what ive been practicing lately is trying to shape the ball which is nigh on impossible with these....
Then im thinking will i just hold off till the new wilsonstaff Ci9's come out and maybe take these for a test drive.

 

[Mike_j_golf]

Hi,
There are a lot of different on line fitting sites why not try a few of them and see if they all give you the same answer most pros will have a hit board and the tape for the bottom of the club to see if the clubs are a bit upright.
Mike

 

[SharkAttack]

I disagree. I think the G/I15 range are a step up in terms of forgiveness and have a better flight than the G/I10 range. I really like the I15 and think they would suit most players from 20 down to single figures (being generalistic here) as they are more forgiving in my opinion than a lot of so called better player clubs.

I've never been measured via the Ping system so wouldn't know if I was average or not. I think the right flex and the right loft lie are equally important as both will have a huge impact on contact and control. If in doubt why not get your pro to let you hit your current clubs on an impact board and see how they fair first before worrying about whether you might be upright or flat

Homer
I was only answering Kid2's questions Ping G's are more forgiving than Ping i's. I didn't say they were not suitable for him, it really depends on how well you hit the ball. I was also just trying to explain why Ping may have suggested 0.75 degrees upright for an average person. Vindicate by Kid2's reply.

 

[SharkAttack]

Then im thinking will i just hold off till the new wilsonstaff Ci9's come out and maybe take these for a test drive.

[/QUOTE]
Hey Kid2 if you like your golf bats and hit them well, then wait for the Ci9's. You could get fitted for them when you are buying.

 

[Mike_j_golf]

Hi,
I think you are better off getting a custom fit of some description off a pro if u buy the new clubs without doing it u will always wonder if they have the right lie and shaft its cheaper to go for the custom fit than buy a new set of clubs. A lot of club pros will be able to do it for you.
Mike

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Sharkattack

I wasn't arguing per se between the G and the I's but merely stating that in my opinion the G15 range (G and I) are better and more hittable than their predecessors. Again I'm not arguing that 0.75 degrees upright may not be the right fitting for him and his swing or that an "average" person may be +/- a degree or so. What I was saying is that rather than rely on a series of online numbers which doesn't take into account a flat or upright swing path using an impact board and a pro will give you a much better reading without having to go down the full C/F process. From there a pro will be able to advise on options for a straighter ball flight.

 

[RGDave]

It also says that i need stiff shafts in my irons and that they should have a lie angle of +.75* upright with standard grips..
Is this an accurate reading and should i change from my wilsonstaff Di7's these have regular uniflex shafts I aim to change my irons after christmas and really make an impact on my game next season so im just doing a bit of homework at the moment.....

I'm not saying the Ping fit doesn't have to logic to it, but I know two (good players) young guys who both play regular W/S irons, one Di, one Pi and they are monsters......hasn't proved a problem for either.
If they got fitted, they'd both be on stiff....

When you need irons, go for it. Until then, I'd not worry too much. Better this way than the other.....

 

[kid2]

Thanks for all the replies gents.....
I think ill keep my options open till after santa comes
Id really like to stay with the wilsons as they're pretty affordable clubs for the average player plus im fairly biased when it comes to manufacturers

 

[Ethan]

The online is 'static' fitting, i.e. with no movement involved. Custom fitting at Ping in Lincs or one of the other manufacturers is 'dynamic' fitting which may differ a bit depending what your swing is like. Dynamic fitting will always be better because you need the fit to be good for the swing, not just standing over the ball, and the swing path, speed of release and other swing factors can influence what the correct fit should be. These will not be detected during static fitting.