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Oh No!! Not the 'I' Word again.

Re Housing.....how many empty/unused houses do you think there are in the UK.
I would imagine there are more than 500,000.
We need planning/occupancy laws to be altered to meet this challenge.

Once again Cameron is totally out of touch with this one.
How can we as a nation heartlessly look the other way when this sort of is suffering goes on.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Re Housing.....how many empty/unused houses do you think there are in the UK.
I would imagine there are more than 500,000.
We need planning/occupancy laws to be altered to meet this challenge.

Once again Cameron is totally out of touch with this one.
How can we as a nation heartlessly look the other way when this sort of is suffering goes on.
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If there are lots of empty/unused houses in this country, why are there so many homeless British people sleeping on the streets? I have nothing against helping others but surely we should be helping our own people out first?
 
Doon frae Troon said:
How can we as a nation heartlessly look the other way when this sort of is suffering goes on.
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Having just Googled the Independent newspaper to see what the image is that they printed on today's front page... it is too harrowing to post up.

Surely there is more we can do? Must do!!
 
Hobbit said:
Having just Googled the Independent newspaper to see what the image is that they printed on today's front page... it is too harrowing to post up.

Surely there is more we can do? Must do!!
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Not seen it but would imagine it was where I wrote about the poor child. And yes surely there must be something we should do, because at the moment it feels like we're doing nowt, towards a problem this government has helped create.
 
Tashyboy said:
Not seen it but would imagine it was where I wrote about the poor child. And yes surely there must be something we should do, because at the moment it feels like we're doing nowt, towards a problem this government has helped create.
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If we can mobilise xxxxx thousands of troops from various nations because Saddam invaded Kuwait, there's no excuse for the lip service effort we're seeing.
 
It seems a few of the rags have changed their opinion - The Daily Mail for example had front page saying "Stop the Flood of Immigrants " only 5 days ago now the front page is that poor little girl with them asking us to do something

Social media has one paper a few weeks ago suggesting gunboats sort out the immigration and now again the same paper has the same picture of the girl - hypocrites the lot of them
 
Liverpoolphil said:
It seems a few of the rags have changed their opinion - The Daily Mail for example had front page saying "Stop the Flood of Immigrants " only 5 days ago now the front page is that poor little girl with them asking us to do something

Social media has one paper a few weeks ago suggesting gunboats sort out the immigration and now again the same paper has the same picture of the girl - hypocrites the lot of them
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In reality Phil, Newspapers only serve us what they believe we want.. And trust me, certain newspapers know their demographics very very well.. If you want to know the real "Mood of the Nation", just take a look at the headlines on the bottom shelf papers.. In my humble opinion, they don't paint a pretty picture of what we, as a Nation, prioritize..
 
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When I first posted on here dec 2013 about immigration, it just feels a couple of years have gone by and there is no government policy/ plan of action, whatever you want to call it. Two wasted years. Furthermore I have a gut feeling the response will be a wrong "knee jerk" reaction.

yes I do believe that the EU should be helping to solve a problem it has helped create, but and this is a massive but, Japan took in six migrants last year. But what about the oil rich States. Surely they have as much responsibility. An interesting read about oil rich I country's in the Middle East and immigration on the BBC website today.
 
Tashyboy said:
When I first posted on here dec 2013 about immigration, it just feels a couple of years have gone by and there is no government policy/ plan of action, whatever you want to call it. Two wasted years. Furthermore I have a gut feeling the response will be a wrong "knee jerk" reaction.

yes I do believe that the EU should be helping to solve a problem it has helped create, but and this is a massive but, Japan took in six migrants last year. But what about the oil rich States. Surely they have as much responsibility. An interesting read about oil rich I country's in the Middle East and immigration on the BBC website today.
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I expect the U.S. Take a lot of Mexican immigrants and certainly when I was in Dubai there was a great deal amount of immigrants working
 
londonlewis said:
Do you know why the European Union was created in the first place?
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I did and I have just had a quick read on Wikipedia to refresh myself with the origins of EU.
What I did not know is that the first origins of an EU was signing a treaty after the Second World War on Steel and coal, ( tools used to make war machines). Seems a bit ironic that a treaty that was initially set up for miners, never helped me and thousands of others. thanks for helping me realise even more that the EU has done nowt for me.

back on topic.
 
Tashyboy said:
Japan took in six migrants last year.
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Can you share your source for this statistic please?

I've googled it and can't find what you are talking about.
The figures I found state that Japan's net migration over the last 4 years was 350,000. Over the same time period the UK's was 900,000.
Given that Japan is significantly more densely populated than the UK I think we can understand why their figure is lower.

Maybe you are talking about how many asylum seekers Japan took in?
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I expect the U.S. Take a lot of Mexican immigrants and certainly when I was in Dubai there was a great deal amount of immigrants working
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I think reading the difference between the EU and Middle East is that IN the EU, migrants have opportunities to improve the lifestyle. In oil rich States, they make it expensive and nigh on impossible for you to enter, and if you do there's not much chance to improve your lifestyle. As stated by the Beeb.
 
Tashyboy said:
I did and I have just had a quick read on Wikipedia to refresh myself with the origins of EU.
What I did not know is that the first origins of an EU was signing a treaty after the Second World War on Steel and coal, ( tools used to make war machines). Seems a bit ironic that a treaty that was initially set up for miners, never helped me and thousands of others. thanks for helping me realise even more that the EU has done nowt for me.

back on topic.
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It wasn't 'set up for miners'. It was set up to stop war.

So sorry that the prevention of World Wars is not something you have benefited from.
 
londonlewis said:
Can you share your source for this statistic please?

I've googled it and can't find what you are talking about.
The figures I found state that Japan's net migration over the last 4 years was 350,000. Over the same time period the UK's was 900,000.
Given that Japan is significantly more densely populated than the UK I think we can understand why their figure is lower.

Maybe you are talking about how many asylum seekers Japan took in?
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Yup read post 75, thing is though you have mentioned what I was trying to say earlier on in this topic re taking on 500,000. If we continue along the lines as you suggested we and most of Europe will end up like Japan ( densely populated). Can we as a country or Europe support that population. I don't think so.

off golfing gents.👍
 
londonlewis said:
It wasn't 'set up for miners'. It was set up to stop war.

So sorry that the prevention of World Wars is not something you have benefited from.
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Thats right it was, but it never did a great deal in the Balkans either did it?
 
Tashyboy said:
Yup read post 75, thing is though you have mentioned what I was trying to say earlier on in this topic re taking on 500,000. If we continue along the lines as you suggested we and most of Europe will end up like Japan ( densely populated). Can we as a country or Europe support that population. I don't think so.

off golfing gents.👍
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I haven't suggested anything.
 
Tashyboy said:
Thats right it was, but it never did a great deal in the Balkans either did it?
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I'm not entirely sure how to reply to this or why you felt it was important to write in the first place?

It's impossible to reason with you Tashy, you've obviously decided that the EU has nothing to offer you. What do you have to offer the EU?
 
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