wjemather
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93%, but still heavily favouring higher handicaps in a 4BBB.
AussieKB
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Yes......normally one of the pair will get cut, then after two months that card will fall off.
I play in them for fun, round of golf with mate's drinking plenty of beer, I played with a 1 marker at an away course and we shot 6 or 7 under and won nothing, when I asked the Captain about a Gross prize, he looked at me like I was stupid, we don't do Gross prizes.
AussieKB
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My mistake, Daily handicap is used, so Course rating slope rating 93% etc.
wjemather
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Yes, 4BBB competition scores "should" be used for handicapping in Australia, using the same conditions and calculation as GB&I adopted in April (and took until May to work properly for most).
Swango1980
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Apologies, completely forgot you said it was 4BBB, which was an important point.
I'm interested in Australia Golf's implementation of handicap allowances for different events. On one hand, you embed 93% into the Course Handicap (Daily Handicap I think you call it), which is a bit more extreme than it is for us (in singles stroke play, and certainly singles match play). Yet, when it comes to 4BBB stroke play, you don't seem to recommend any further reductions, whereas we go 85%. You obviously have an Allowances table, and it is recommended that 90% is used for four ball in match play. But, the table seems to have completely omitted four ball stroke play? Am I missing something, are Oz Golf missing something or do Oz Golf have a thought out reason for this?
D-S
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If they had used 85%
Sorry, forgot we had adopted their system.
AussieKB
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OZ Golf recommends for all events Single, 4BBB or match play you use Daily Handicap, no allowance table used here, a big win for high handicaps.
wjemather
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nickjdavis
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Well that's plainly an issue caused by OZ Golf....not WHS.
D-S
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Are those multipliers applied to the Daily Handicap (93%) or full Course Handicap?
Swango1980
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Daily Handicap. They don't have a Course Handicap.
They simply have a GA Handicap (i.e. Index) and then Daily Handicap (our Course Handicap, but with 93% thrown in there). So, the multipliers are applied to their Daily Handicap, which has the 93% already (Edit - other recommended multipliers replace the 93% in the standard Daily Hcp)
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Swango1980
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Yeah, that is what I'm getting at. You do have allowances in 4BBB match-play, but not stroke play. Which seems odd. In 4BBB stroke play, our allowance in UK (85%) is less than it is in match play (90%)
wjemather
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The standard multiplier is 93%. The table values should be used in place of the standard multiplier, so not cumulatively.
AussieKB
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Not much 4BBB match play played here, but when clubs do have it, it is 100% and I play a lot of golf.
Swango1980
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So, in 4BBB stroke play, Oz Golf have made a strange decision not to implement a lower allowance to handicaps.
And, in 4BBB match play, clubs do not apply the 90% used in the manual, but decide to go 100% (i.e. not even applying the 93%?).
Sounds like Oz Golf AND people that run golf clubs in Australia are making a complete mess of WHS? I'd blame their incompetence before I'd blame WHS
D-S
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So the only time you actually use the Daily Handicap (93%) is really individual strokeplay then, if in all those formats your Playing Handicap is done on multipliers of full Course Handicap?
AussieKB
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No.....the 93% is used for every event, to calculate your Daily Handicap for the course and tee you are playing from.
wjemather
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Daily Handicaps (93%) are used for individual and (ridiculously) 4BBB stroke play.
There is no "Course Handicap" in Australia but in essence, yes, that is how we would describe it. However, many of those running comps do not apply them and just use the DH with the standard 93% multiplier.
Swango1980
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I'm confused. In Australia, do all golf clubs simply ignore the Playing Allowance table in the Australia Golf's WHS Manual? Does the software make it easy to adjust the allowances for different events?
As far as I'm aware, in the UK all the software automatically uses the multiplier recommended for that type of event. I'd have thought the software in Australia would be set up to do exactly the same, so there would be no decision to make by those who set up comps.
D-S
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So what % of your CH do you use for individual strokeplay for example then? Do you use your Daily Handicap (93%) or 100% as per the table?
Similarly with 2 out of 4 strokeplay, 85% of your Daily Handicap or 85% of your full Course Handiacp as per the table?