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My New Hero- Gary Barlow

c1973 said:
Hmmmm.
My old gaffer (when he caught some fellas on the fiddle) said 'when it comes to money, nobody is daft, they knew what they were doing'. I believed that then and I think I still do tbf.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like retrospective punishment. If it wasn't illegal at the time then they shouldn't pay it back imo, but I'm no expert and have never tried tax avoidance.....so what do I know. :)
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hand on heart, you have declared every piece of income you receive every year? that includes any homers, gifts, interest from any bank accounts even if its just a few pounds? if you have I reckon you will be the only one.
 
c1973 said:
He might be a top bloke, I've no doubt he is.

But, there's no excusing his crimes against music. :)
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Yes need to agree he should be locked up for swindling the tax man oh no bad idea he could then re release a new version of Jail House Rock. Lets have a documentary showing how he and his mates fiddled the tax man maybe then people will see the true Gary.
 
CMAC said:
hand on heart, you have declared every piece of income you receive every year? that includes any homers, gifts, interest from any bank accounts even if its just a few pounds? if you have I reckon you will be the only one.
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Its OK, you dont need to defend GB.
 
CMAC said:
hand on heart, you have declared every piece of income you receive every year? that includes any homers, gifts, interest from any bank accounts even if its just a few pounds? if you have I reckon you will be the only one.
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Yep, I have. I believe in paying my dues for the betterment of society (aren't I a good boy lol). I'm on PAYE, don't do homers and savings are in ISAs (not that there's much!). Bookies winnings aren't taxable are they? If so, then lock me up. ;)

Oh, before anyone jumps on the ISAs, they are tax efficient and not avoidance and in no way 'dodgy'. No doubt knowing the pedantry displayed by some (not yerself btw) they will be all over that one but hey ho.

Like I say I'm not an expert and have never paid a FA to advise me, so it's only an unfounded opinion. :)
 
CMAC said:
Anyone watch the documentary tonight on what he went through. Unbelievable! and to come out with the attitude he has is truly inspirational.

I've always admired him but I had no idea about the vile personal hatred that was thrown at him daily, for years!

Lesser individuals would never have come out the other side.

He comes across as a very genuine, respectful, empathic and loving individual. He deserves all he has.

Well done Gary- a Major role model in life.:thup:
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Watched it with HID and thought it was really good! :o
 
c1973 said:
Yep, I have. I believe in paying my dues for the betterment of society (aren't I a good boy lol). I'm on PAYE, don't do homers and savings are in ISAs (not that there's much!). Bookies winnings aren't taxable are they? If so, then lock me up. ;)...
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Yes they are - as are the Bookies profits and (probably) the cash you are using for the bet is after tax as well! Demonstrating how resourceful governments can be at extracting funds from as many sources as they can! However, you get a choice of whether to pay the tax up front or out of your winnings - at the same rate, so the taxman can be a partner in your gamble!

And I trust you decline every offer by tradesmen etc for 'cheaper for cash', as that's almost certainly not going to be declared!
 
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Foxholer said:
Yes they are - as are the Bookies profits and (probably) the cash you are using for the bet is after tax as well! Demonstrating how resourceful governments can be at extracting funds from as many sources as they can! However, you get a choice of whether to pay the tax up front or out of your winnings - at the same rate, so the taxman can be a partner in your gamble!

And I trust you decline every offer by tradesmen etc for 'cheaper for cash', as that's almost certainly not going to be declared!
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The requirement to pay tax (when placing your bet or when claiming winnings) was done away with years ago. Bookies and Casinos etc pay tax but the punter does not pay tax on winnings.
 
guest100718 said:
Its interesting how cameron ripped into Jimmy Carr for using a legal tax avoidance scheme, where with national treasure Gary barlow it's suddenly none of his business..
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I know that you know, but for those who don't he's 'one of us' (or 'them', being tories).

What is it with the rich ? They all have more than several generations of their families could ever need, and yet find the need to avoid paying into a society which we are all members of (mostly for the better).

It really seems to be a mania.
 
Foxholer said:
Yes they are - as are the Bookies profits and (probably) the cash you are using for the bet is after tax as well! Demonstrating how resourceful governments can be at extracting funds from as many sources as they can! However, you get a choice of whether to pay the tax up front or out of your winnings - at the same rate, so the taxman can be a partner in your gamble!
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Winnings from gambling aren't taxable.
 
Foxholer said:
Yes they are - as are the Bookies profits and (probably) the cash you are using for the bet is after tax as well! Demonstrating how resourceful governments can be at extracting funds from as many sources as they can! However, you get a choice of whether to pay the tax up front or out of your winnings - at the same rate, so the taxman can be a partner in your gamble!

And I trust you decline every offer by tradesmen etc for 'cheaper for cash', as that's almost certainly not going to be declared!
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Yep. If it ain't through the books you get no legal comeback on shoddy work and/or merchandise (besides, I trade favours with family and friends for maintenance work I'm not insured for and do most work myself anyway). Anyway, someone not putting payment through the books would not constitute tax avoidance on my part. :)

Out of curiosity would you decline cheaper for cash deals?
 
gmc40 said:
The requirement to pay tax (when placing your bet or when claiming winnings) was done away with years ago. Bookies and Casinos etc pay tax but the punter does not pay tax on winnings.
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Doh! Seriously out of date then! Just shows how long ago it was when I last went in to a Bookies for a bet!
 
I don't think Gary comes from money and has worked hard and is now very wealthy. I think in his shoes most, apart from the very altruistic, would look to pay the minimum requirement in tax bearing in mind that would still be way more than the average person pays.

I'd be surprised if he would knowingly venture into something illegal but would pay his financial advisors to minimise his tax burden.

Personally I don't have a problem with that and STILL love Gary :o
 
Sorry but I think it's his advisors and those people who offer these schemes that should be punished but then again close the loop hole.
I watched the documentary and frankly I have total respect for the bloke.
 
firstly the scheme is not illegal and getting tax exemptions and reductions is an everyday thing for trades people and company's alike( most entertainers are limited company's ) it was the way this scheme worked that was the problem,morally it is wrong and they should pay the millions back,take his o.b.e of him ban him from writing or performing another song for 10 years and and that goes for any tune he or take that did,well i can only dream.
 
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