Might as well bin my TV license ........

The subscription idea should work just like Sky, Netflix, or any other subscription service..
If you want to use it - any of it - you pay for it.
If you don't want to use it - any of it - then you don't pay for it and you can't use it.
It couldn't be simpler
 
Bit on the fence.

Just got DD'd for Licence Fee a few days ago, bit of sting. No doubt watch more BBC than I think but I only make a point of watching MOTD and the NFL show, 24hr news a bit and some films via IPlayer but that's about it. Watch netflix more. Of course Mrs has Eastenders and any Sunday evening Poldark style period drama series on always.

£100 would be enough I think, is too expensive for too much cheaply produced stuff like Strictly and snooker.

Do listen in the car to R4,R2 and RScot for on average maybe a half hour per day.

Paying 'Woss' or Norton or Lineker the vast money they do is wrong for a publicly funded outfit.

Still find the lack of adverts the best thing about it of course. Simply refuse to watch any movie on advert based channels like ITV/C4.
 
Jacko_G said:
Not sure why the BBC don't just open up to advertising and be done with it, surely a far greater revenue stream than £12 a month. My TV licence renewal just kicked in again last week. Its one of these things I don't even notice till I get my yearly reminder that the DD will continue.
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Yeah, but that's £12 per month for pretty much every household in the UK. Even if you say 1m don't have/pay a license then c.26m households equates to a cool £312m per month or nearly £4bn per year. Advertising probably isn't going to match that. Sky's commercial income was less than that when I worked there and they have considerably more channels/offerings.

IMO the BBC would never contemplate subscription because of the potential loss of revenue. They would possibly need to offer tiered subs and that would mean a higher rate "top tier" (for the BBC luvvies) to offset possible loss at the lower ends.

Having spent a number of years working in and with subscription viewing services its not as straight forward as just PAYG.
 
Dear Points of View,
I would like to complain about the Licence fee. It's far too low.
I would willingly sell my house and all its contents to help the BBC.

Not the Nine O'clock News, 1981.
 
I'd also argue that in a world where there seems to be a frightening amount of suppression of a free press by increasingly autocratic leaders, together with increasing interference in our daily lives by malevolent forces through social media with regards to elections and consumption of news, then having an organisation like the BBC is even more essential.
 
Colonel Bogey said:
Can you actually do this though?
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YES
Many in Scotland have as a protest about BBC Scotland political bias and unfair funding from London HQ.
From what I am told there has not been one prosecution in the last 4 years.
Refuse entry to your house, they have no legal right of entry, proof of live watching has to be established and that is problematic.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
YES
Many in Scotland have as a protest about BBC Scotland political bias and unfair funding from London HQ.
From what I am told there has not been one prosecution in the last 4 years.
Refuse entry to your house, they have no legal right of entry, proof of live watching has to be established and that is problematic.
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Most TV licensing fines in Scotland are made out of court. A total of 13,486 were fined. In England and Wales there were 185,580 prosecutions. That means there were more fines issued north of the border than south, per capita.

It has previously been claimed that there are more TV Licence evaders in Scotland - where satisfaction with the BBC is much lower than in England - but this is not the case.

The amount of money raised from TV licence fines, meanwhile, is also much higher in England than in Scotland. The average fine is just £75 in north of the border, compared with £170 south. The licence fee is currently around £140. So English fines are higher than the fee, while Scotland fines are exactly half of the fee.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news...pay-tv-licence-compared-to-scores-in-england/
 
Well I wouldn't personally rely on YouTube, Facebook, etc. for my news as despite the many detractors the BBC still does try to give a balanced view of the news.
I sit on the side of loving the BBC. At £12 per month it's a lot cheaper than Sky and on a par with Netflix and I get all the BBC programmes (which I do watch a lot of), iPlayer, the website, all the local radio stations so to me it's tremendous VFM. Not everyone will agree but I would bet that all these people who say "I never use the BBC" would be surprised if they actually tallied up their usage of everything BBC. I would also agree some of the BBC4 documentaries are fantastic. And the fact it doesn't have ads is a mega bonus for me. Worth the £12 a month alone.
And if you want biased news programmes, look at some of the ones overseas (Fox News being a prime example).
Long Live The BBC!
(And I, nor any of my family, have any relationship with the BBC).
 
And those who can't afford subscription services - or the elderly who don't understand other than terrestrial TV and Radio (see for example my M-i-L) - what of them? Do they just have to put up with the significantly degraded offering that will result because the better off of us don't want to help fund a universal service if we don't need to use it ourselves. And who uses all these other more niche BBC services that serve specific sectors of the population - there for those of us who rely upon the BBC and the focussed services it provides?

You'll only miss it when it's gone or when you find that you need it.

Long live the BBC +1
 
Imurg said:
The subscription idea should work just like Sky, Netflix, or any other subscription service..
If you want to use it - any of it - you pay for it.
If you don't want to use it - any of it - then you don't pay for it and you can't use it.
It couldn't be simpler
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I don’t see how anyone could disagree with this.
 
Robster59 said:
Well I wouldn't personally rely on YouTube, Facebook, etc. for my news as despite the many detractors the BBC still does try to give a balanced view of the news.
I sit on the side of loving the BBC. At £12 per month it's a lot cheaper than Sky and on a par with Netflix and I get all the BBC programmes (which I do watch a lot of), iPlayer, the website, all the local radio stations so to me it's tremendous VFM. Not everyone will agree but I would bet that all these people who say "I never use the BBC" would be surprised if they actually tallied up their usage of everything BBC. I would also agree some of the BBC4 documentaries are fantastic. And the fact it doesn't have ads is a mega bonus for me. Worth the £12 a month alone.
And if you want biased news programmes, look at some of the ones overseas (Fox News being a prime example).
Long Live The BBC!
(And I, nor any of my family, have any relationship with the BBC).
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Not about the quality (or otherwise) of the BBC's output.

Fine for those that like it but the question is why should it be universally funded?

After all those that, for example, wish to watch Sky's programming are not subsidised by those that don't.

The funding model for the BBC cannot be justified by vague claims of lack of editorial bias as that, itself, is a subjective judgement .
 
My parents don’t pay it, they use primarily just Netflix or YouTube and stream it to the TV.

Unfortunately my mrs likes to watch casualty so that bill comes from her bank.
 
Imurg said:
The subscription idea should work just like Sky, Netflix, or any other subscription service..
If you want to use it - any of it - you pay for it.
If you don't want to use it - any of it - then you don't pay for it and you can't use it.
It couldn't be simpler
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Maybe first look at the technology- the tv licences also pays for the radio shows , website

Currently you access sky via a box so how do you ensure people who don’t “subscribe” are unable to access 5 live or BBC R2 - and how do you stop their digitally telly from being able to receive the pictures ? They don’t have a box , they don’t have a “pen” stick

The logicistics of putting “BBC” onto subscribe only are near impossible without further costs to both public and BBC

Right now we pay £10 a month how do you think the costs would rise to
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Maybe first look at the technology- the tv licences also pays for the radio shows , website

Currently you access sky via a box so how do you ensure people who don’t “subscribe” are unable to access 5 live or BBC R2 - and how do you stop their digitally telly from being able to receive the pictures ? They don’t have a box , they don’t have a “pen” stick

The logicistics of putting “BBC” onto subscribe only are near impossible without further costs to both public and BBC

Right now we pay £10 a month how do you think the costs would rise to
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You don't need a TV license for the radio.
https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ102
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
And those who can't afford subscription services - or the elderly who don't understand other than terrestrial TV and Radio (see for example my M-i-L) - what of them? Do they just have to put up with the significantly degraded offering that will result because the better off of us don't want to help fund a universal service if we don't need to use it ourselves. And who uses all these other more niche BBC services that serve specific sectors of the population - there for those of us who rely upon the BBC and the focussed services it provides?

You'll only miss it when it's gone or when you find that you need it.

Long live the BBC +1
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There are currently 9 BBC TV channels, approx 14 radio stations (could be more but they are tricky to pin down). This is without adding in regional tv and radio.

Perhaps if the BBC focussed its resources a little better and scaled down its operations the offering would not be degraded.
 
Orikoru said:
You don't need a TV license for the radio.
https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ102
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As soon as you make the BBC a subscription service the BBC will lose a lot of money so they are going to find a way to bring funds - currently How do they fund the BBC radio stations -so it’s either find a way to make it subscription or it comes to advertising and then it’s just like any other station
 
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