Mentmore Golf Club - Abandoned Pictures

[Jack991]

If the permission hasn't come through yet, what chance does he think he'll have going forward? Has the owner resubmitted plans again, or planning to do so?

Very limited, the owner is currently bankrupt and hasn't been seen for months. He originally tried to reopen as a corporate venue but this failed and since then the course has fallen into disrepair. My guess is it would cost too much to relay all 36 greens, revamp all the bunkers and sort the irrigation system for it to ever open again as a 36 hole venue. Not to mention the land is leased from a nearby farm so it is not very attractive to existing golf companies to acquire as the initial outlay would be too great

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Very limited, the owner is currently bankrupt and hasn't been seen for months. He originally tried to reopen as a corporate venue but this failed and since then the course has fallen into disrepair. My guess is it would cost too much to relay all 36 greens, revamp all the bunkers and sort the irrigation system for it to ever open again as a 36 hole venue. Not to mention the land is leased from a nearby farm so it is not very attractive to existing golf companies to acquire as the initial outlay would be too great

Not good. Is the owner officially bankrupt as that would clearly have implications? Would he look to offload and recoup some money that way and would there be anyone potentially willing to buy it especially given the cost and work required

 

[Jack991]

From what I can tell he was 'declared' bankrupt back in 2010 having failed to pay back loans on his property empire. To complicate matters he also owns Mentmore Towers which is also mothballed and in disrepair, my guess is he is holding onto them both for as long as possible, clinging onto his wild idea of converting Mentmore Towers into a hotel and golf resort. All we can do is hope that he is ultimately forced to part ways with them.

You can get an idea of the man from the article below...

(https://www.standard.co.uk/news/cri...-to-keep-rape-conviction-secret-a3927106.html)

 

[HomerJSimpson]

From what I can tell he was 'declared' bankrupt back in 2010 having failed to pay back loans on his property empire. To complicate matters he also owns Mentmore Towers which is also mothballed and in disrepair, my guess is he is holding onto them both for as long as possible, clinging onto his wild idea of converting Mentmore Towers into a hotel and golf resort. All we can do is hope that he is ultimately forced to part ways with them.

You can get an idea of the man from the article below...

(https://www.standard.co.uk/news/cri...-to-keep-rape-conviction-secret-a3927106.html)

Great believer in karma and clearly what has gone around is coming around and he's deservedly struggling. As you say, I guess it's all a waiting game now and then seeing what the future holds

 

[robinthehood]

My old club closed a few months back, i'll have to pop over see what it looks like.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

From what I can tell he was 'declared' bankrupt back in 2010 having failed to pay back loans on his property empire. To complicate matters he also owns Mentmore Towers which is also mothballed and in disrepair, my guess is he is holding onto them both for as long as possible, clinging onto his wild idea of converting Mentmore Towers into a hotel and golf resort. All we can do is hope that he is ultimately forced to part ways with them.

You can get an idea of the man from the article below...

(https://www.standard.co.uk/news/cri...-to-keep-rape-conviction-secret-a3927106.html)

A lot of people were affected by the issue , members who paid fees , including a couple who paid in the week before it closed , people who paid deposits and full fee for weddings and corporate days - a lot with money lost and a good number that joined our place. It made a lot of people speechless that the club went back to the previous owners because of a lot of history financially especially when another golf group was reported to have bid for it as well as a members bid

The land is leased to about £200k a year so that money still gets paid but apparently the terms of the lease where to have two playable golf courses plus a clubhouse but that’s not happening so who knows what’s going to happen

The whole place has so much potential for members , pay and stay and a hotel - it would have cost a bit to upgrade Towers but it was achievable and the courses had a lot of potential- it’s a shame what happened but the closing of the course gave a lot of clubs in the area an influx of members - we still have a lot who are now settled in but there are still a few who are moving around clubs to find one

 

[Foxholer]

...It made a lot of people speechless that the club went back to the previous owners because of a lot of history financially and criminally especially when another golf group was reported to have bid for it as well as a members bid...

Can you actually justify that? At least in relation to Mentmore! His French rape conviction is a matter of record. But that is irrelevant in terms of buying back the club.

If you can't, I'd suggest you be very careful about such speculation!

 

[cliveb]

From what I can tell he was 'declared' bankrupt back in 2010 having failed to pay back loans on his property empire. To complicate matters he also owns Mentmore Towers which is also mothballed and in disrepair, my guess is he is holding onto them both for as long as possible, clinging onto his wild idea of converting Mentmore Towers into a hotel and golf resort. All we can do is hope that he is ultimately forced to part ways with them.

I am not a lawyer, but the layman in me is thinking that if he's been declared bankrupt, then presumably he has creditors who would like to be paid (at least partly).
In which case, what are the courts doing allowing him to retain ownership of these assets?

 

[Big Jim]

From what I can tell he was 'declared' bankrupt back in 2010 having failed to pay back loans on his property empire. To complicate matters he also owns Mentmore Towers which is also mothballed and in disrepair, my guess is he is holding onto them both for as long as possible, clinging onto his wild idea of converting Mentmore Towers into a hotel and golf resort. All we can do is hope that he is ultimately forced to part ways with them.

You can get an idea of the man from the article below...

(https://www.standard.co.uk/news/cri...-to-keep-rape-conviction-secret-a3927106.html)

what happened to the Hippies?

didn't George Harrison give them mentmore ?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I am not a lawyer, but the layman in me is thinking that if he's been declared bankrupt, then presumably he has creditors who would like to be paid (at least partly).
In which case, what are the courts doing allowing him to retain ownership of these assets?

I’m not sure if he himself is currently declared bankrupt? I believe the company that used to own Mentmore was put into admin and declared bankrupt

I believe he was declared Bankrupt back in 2010 ? But a new company was formed to take ownership of the club when he took control again.

So one company owner Mentmore - closed the club , went into admin and bankrupt

New company formed - was given the club from the administrators

Both companies owned by the same person

 

[Jack991]

I’m not sure if he himself is currently declared bankrupt? I believe the company that used to own Mentmore was put into admin and declared bankrupt

I believe he was declared Bankrupt back in 2010 ? But a new company was formed to take ownership of the club when he took control again.

So one company owner Mentmore - closed the club , went into admin and bankrupt

New company formed - was given the club from the administrators

Both companies owned by the same person

And in regards to a previous comment made by another poster about criminal - it’s in regards his rape conviction which is public record

Ah that would make sense sorry for not being clear! Regardless, the club is a complete mess and any chance of it being reopened under his ownership is next to nothing!

 

[Imurg]

what happened to the Hippies?

didn't George Harrison give them mentmore ?

The bounced away quite a few years ago...

 

[cliveb]

So one company owner Mentmore - closed the club , went into admin and bankrupt
New company formed - was given the club from the administrators
Both companies owned by the same person

There's something seriously wrong with company and fiscal law when these kind of shenanigans are allowed to go on.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

A shame when you hear of the people losing money right up to the final closure and when you realise the potential of the place. It's a shame if company and fiscal law allow the previous owner to retain the place with a clear view to sell at a future date and recoup large amounts of the cash lost without a thought for previous customers and creditors

 

[Boabski]

Sad to see another golf course having to close its doors - not good

 

[Big Jim]

The bounced away quite a few years ago...

it was some time ago i must admit, lovely building, real craftsmanship. we did a load of carpentry stuff for them.

 

[John Llewellyn]

Any chance I could use a couple of pictures on Golf's Missing Links? www.golfsmissinglinks.co.uk

 

[Jack991]

Absolutely!

 

[patricks148]

Any chance I could use a couple of pictures on Golf's Missing Links? www.golfsmissinglinks.co.uk

not sure if this info is any use to you?

Torvean in Inverness is closing in July, well changing the name and moving to a new course across the road. First 4 holes have already been closed for the new canal swing bridge and roadto the western bypass. old layout going apart from the 16th and 18th

 

[John Llewellyn]

Absolutely!

Many thanks. Any attribution required