Market leader and why...

Based on what I see in people's bags, I would go drivers/woods: taylormade, hybrids are tough to call, irons: ping by far! Wedges: vokey, and putters: odyssey.
That is purely popularity of my experience on the course.
 
drive4show said:
Every single person that has tried my Orka blades has thought they are really nice but I wonder how many people would actually consider putting them in their bag?

Not many I would imagine.
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Same thing happened when i got my KZG's irons 12 years ago. Everyone said they look and feel nice but because they didn't have Titleist, Mizuno etc stamped on them they must be cheap and crap (they were £93 per iron). Still got them but not in my bag as I won the Mizzie's last year.
 
Not a big fan of Mr Woods demeanour on course and his personality (or lack of) off the course. But you have to admire his golfing achievements and the skill he has demonstrated over the years. I think it's really sad to see a great of the game floundering...
 
Slab said:
Different kind of driving Tiger!
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The way I drive and the danger it can pose to the golfers I think HM Government may decide to introduce a test and licensing system for the safety of other golf course users....

Unless they are straight ahead of me on the fairway of course. It's very safe there :rofl:
 
Back on topic

Woods - Not much difference in them all but I saw one lad clout his Ping K15 past the drive of one of the longest hitters at our place. It didn't half temp me.
Irons - Cleveland and Ping every time for me
Wedges - Cleveland no contest. find the right ones though.
Putter - Well, a bloke at out place putts like a demon with one he bought for a fiver from a bargin bucket bin so I'm gonna say it don't matter. I've also tried loads and none make one jot of difference.
 
i play with about 20 guys on a reg basis and they all tend to have;

Ping or TM drivers
Woods and hybrids a mix of Callaway, Mizuno Ping and Adams
Ping or Mizuno Irons
Cleveland wedges
Ping or Odssy putter
 
I suppose just because someone's a market leader it doesn't necessarily make them the best. Tour players choice is based on their contracts, Nike try to insist on 14 clubs, most others don't. Titleist/Scotty Cameron don't pay their players to use the putters but the Vokey wedges are part of the contract. Titleist have consistently led the ball count on Tour and Taylormade typically lead the driver count, in these two cases they're probably the best/market leaders judging by the number of tour players contracted to other manufacturers who use them. Years ago Miura used to forge irons for some of the leading players and then stamp the appropriate manufacturers names into the heads.

For what its worth I think:-
Driver - Taylormade
Fairway - Callaway
Hybrid - Adams
Irons - Mizuno
Wedges - Vokey
Putter - Scotty Cameron
Ball - Titleist
 
I think the one we can all agree on is Titleist are market leaders in golf balls. Notably the Pro V1. I hate Titleist golf balls for no reason other than I seem to not get on with them. Every time I am looking at a new brand or type of golf ball the guy/ pro in the shop says 'It's TM's version of the Pro V1'

They totally dominate this area.
 
Additionally, there may be a change coming- I have heard that Adidas are growing tired of TM and may be selling- Under Armour may be buying.

Also I think Nike will pull out of golf equipment soon. They like to dominate which they will never do against some of the names. Recently they have withdrawn from sports they do not dominate in and I think golf will be next for them.
 
jamielaing said:
I think the one we can all agree on is Titleist are market leaders in golf balls. Notably the Pro V1. I hate Titleist golf balls for no reason other than I seem to not get on with them. Every time I am looking at a new brand or type of golf ball the guy/ pro in the shop says 'It's TM's version of the Pro V1'

They totally dominate this area.
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I disagree.

Titleist or Acushnet Company as their really known were sued by Callaway for using patent rights, thought to be around 10 different patent infringements in reference to the ProV1, this went on for around 6yrs years and was eventually settled in 2012 where both companies under the terms of the agreement would have specified rights to make ball and club products under patents owned by the other, so, I have every confidence, if not more, in Callaway balls because at one point there was nearly no more ProV1's and talk of a Prov2 because of injunctions because Titleist used Callaways findings (patents) and ground breaking technology at that time, so that says to me that Callaway are right up their for me and if it wasn't for them (Titleist) stealing Callaways patents and using them in the make-up of ProV1's, who's to say that Callaway wouldn't be the market leader now.

I'm pretty sure Callaway get a royalty on ProV1 sales, but I'm not 100% on that.
 
Guess will depend on what your meaning on "market leading" is ?

Popular ? Inovative ? Ground Breaking ? Expensive ?

A mix of everything
 
Fish said:
I disagree.

Titleist or Acushnet Company as their really known were sued by Callaway for using patent rights, thought to be around 10 different patent infringements in reference to the ProV1, this went on for around 6yrs years and was eventually settled in 2012 where both companies under the terms of the agreement would have specified rights to make ball and club products under patents owned by the other, so, I have every confidence, if not more, in Callaway balls because at one point there was nearly no more ProV1's and talk of a Prov2 because of injunctions because Titleist used Callaways findings (patents) and ground breaking technology at that time, so that says to me that Callaway are right up their for me and if it wasn't for them (Titleist) stealing Callaways patents and using them in the make-up of ProV1's, who's to say that Callaway wouldn't be the market leader now.

I'm pretty sure Callaway get a royalty on ProV1 sales, but I'm not 100% on that.
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I would disagree, if by "market leading" you would define it as the most popular, most visible, most well known. It may well not be the best ball by any means, but for me, that isn't what being the market leader is.
 
jamielaing said:
Additionally, there may be a change coming- I have heard that Adidas are growing tired of TM and may be selling- Under Armour may be buying.

Also I think Nike will pull out of golf equipment soon. They like to dominate which they will never do against some of the names. Recently they have withdrawn from sports they do not dominate in and I think golf will be next for them.
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After giving McIlroy a ten year contract I will be surprised if Nike pull out

Also they haven't ever dominated golf yet have been around for a good number of years now ? Also what sports have they pulled out of ?

Would be very surprised to see Adidas sell TM
 
If the market leader isn't necessarily the best does that make most golfers gullible/susceptible to marketing? And would you put yourself in that bracket? I certainly was when I started but not so much nowadays
 
Tiger said:
If the market leader isn't necessarily the best does that make most golfers gullible/susceptible to marketing? And would you put yourself in that bracket? I certainly was when I started but not so much nowadays
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Yes.

No.

I use many non fashionable brands although I do have some clubs that could be described as market leaders (Titleist 910 driver, Odyssey putter)
 
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