Manchester United or Liverpool?

[Pin-seeker]

It's the old net and gross spend argument which will go on forever

Still spent £200 mil in two years - selling players like Mata ,Luiz and Lukaku helps bring the net figure down

We have sold a bit which helps , Arsenal not as much and UTD no one

It's called good business Phil

 

[Fish]

It's the old net and gross spend argument which will go on forever

Still spent £200 mil in two years - selling players like Mata ,Luiz and Lukaku helps bring the net figure down

We have sold a bit which helps , Arsenal not as much and UTD no one

:rofl: you couldn't make it up, I always had the "net spend" thrown in my face but now we've done good business in selling and are underneath those who have bought poorly and not sold wisely, its now the gross spend that rears its head, talk about spin, Whooooooosh :rofl:

 

[Liverbirdie]

It's called good business Phil

So Chelsea over the last 10 years are a great business model? You couldn't make it up.:rofl:

 

[Fish]

It's called good business Phil

Exactly, the gross is immaterial if you've sold well and have a lesser net spend and more importantly, are looking down the league at everyone in achieving that :thup:

 

[Pin-seeker]

So Chelsea over the last 10 years are a great business model? You couldn't make it up.:rofl:

Not like you to talk history
We were talking the present,try & keep up pal:thup:

 

[Pin-seeker]

Mata,Lukaku,Luiz & De Bruyne all sold for a Big profit & the squad is much stronger.
Happy days.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

:rofl: you couldn't make it up, I always had the "net spend" thrown in my face but now we've done good business in selling and are underneath those who have bought poorly and not sold wisely, its now the gross spend that rears its head, talk about spin, Whooooooosh :rofl:

I have never dealt in net spend

Gross gives the truer figure on how much a club has spent

We this summer spent 115 mil

Where the money comes from doesnt change how much has been spent

Over ten years Chelsea has spent a billion on players - spending power not witnessed until City joined them

Spending power created by rich owners , spending power that has given Chelsea and City the success they have

Maureen has spent more on players at his clubs than any other manager in history and I doubt anyone will get near - he hasn't developed one player - it's Maureen spending millions on top of a team that has already had millions spent on it - what if no trophy arrives again - another £100mil more

 

[Liverbirdie]

Not like you to talk history
We were talking the present,try & keep up pal:thup:

Yes and you've sold players such as Luiz, Mata and more that were bought in the "spend money like its going out of fashion" years.

Still trying to say you haven't bought success, after all these years. At least city fans admit it.

#taintedsuccess

 

[Pin-seeker]

Yes and you've sold players such as Luiz, Mata and more that were bought in the "spend money like its going out of fashion" years.

Still trying to say you haven't bought success, after all these years. At least city fans admit it.

#taintedsuccess

Of course I admit it. When have I said otherwise??

Let's say Liverpools owners handed Brenda a open Cheque book,what would he do?
And would you be happy with him buying the best players available??

 

[Pin-seeker]

Money doesn't mean success. Arsenal,Liverpool,Spurs & even UTD at the minute prove that.

 

[Fish]

So Chelsea over the last 10 years are a great business model? You couldn't make it up.:rofl:

Here we go, it'll be the old "history" comfort blanket next :rofl:

These Liverpool supporters always want it on their terms :smirk: You've had your time, the futures blue now :whoo:

 

[Pin-seeker]

Here we go, it'll be the old "history" comfort blanket next :rofl:

These Liverpool supporters always want it on their terms :smirk: You've had your time, the futures blue now :whoo:

Can't see anybody ever giving Brena a open cheque book after seeing how he's just blown £120m

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Here we go, it'll be the old "history" comfort blanket next :rofl:

These Liverpool supporters always want it on their terms :smirk: You've had your time, the futures blue now :whoo:

At least we had a time built on success as opposed to building on the whims of a russian billionaire

Your success is down to one person and his money - you would be nowhere if not for him and being In his debt to the tune of hundreds of millions

Your club bought success and that's the way football is now

Us spending £100 mil to try and keep up isnt something I like to see but it's something clubs have had to do since Abramovich arrived

People will always know why Chelsea and indeed City had success

 

[Fish]

At least we had a time built on success as opposed to building on the whims of a russian billionaire

Your success is down to one person and his money - you would be nowhere if not for him and being In his debt to the tune of hundreds of millions

Your club bought success and that's the way football is now

Us spending £100 mil to try and keep up isnt something I like to see but it's something clubs have had to do since Abramovich arrived

People will always know why Chelsea and indeed City had success

We were having successes before Roman arrived thank you but going by those dates alone, Roman came in 2003, the premiership was formed in 1992 I believe, so now that's 11 years I believe, no money for Chelsea or Man City during all that time, so why couldn't you win the league in all that time with the "successes you built on" :mmm: Money wasn't being thrown around as it is now, Liverpool and Man Utd always had the rich pickings and were breaking wage and transfer records during that period, so whats your excuse for all the years of hurt :smirk:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

We were having successes before Roman arrived thank you but going by those dates alone, Roman came in 2003, the premiership was formed in 1992 I believe, so now that's 11 years I believe, no money for Chelsea or Man City during all that time, so why couldn't you win the league in all that time with the "successes you built on" :mmm: Money wasn't being thrown around as it is now, Liverpool and Man Utd always had the rich pickings and were breaking wage and transfer records during that period, so whats your excuse for all the years of hurt :smirk:

You won a few cups just as others did and we're struggling financially - you hadn't won the league in 50 years plus

In the years from 92 to 04 there where better managers and better teams than us - we bought the wrong players , we made the wrong choices and didn't have a team good enough to win the title. We made the wrong choices at the wrong time and failed to recover from Kenny leaving in 91. Other teams built upon their success

Regardless of our lack of success it doesn't take away from the fact that your success in terms of league wins was down to the financial baking of the russian - 1 billion spent for 3 titles and a CL

 

[Pin-seeker]

You won a few cups just as others did and we're struggling financially - you hadn't won the league in 50 years plus

In the years from 92 to 04 there where better managers and better teams than us - we bought the wrong players , we made the wrong choices and didn't have a team good enough to win the title. We made the wrong choices at the wrong time and failed to recover from Kenny leaving in 91. Other teams built upon their success

Regardless of our lack of success it doesn't take away from the fact that your success in terms of league wins was down to the financial baking of the russian - 1 billion spent for 3 titles and a CL

Try not to be so bitter Phil. All the big clubs like to spend Big:thup:

 

[Pin-seeker]

Of course I admit it. When have I said otherwise??

Let's say Liverpools owners handed Brenda a open Cheque book,what would he do?
And would you be happy with him buying the best players available??

????

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Sadly these days money is what it's all about which is why Chelsea and City have stolen a march on some sides. Whether United, Arsenal and Liverpool will ever have such an open cheque book policy to the same extent is open to debate although I doubt it. Whether FFP will change this is an interesting conundrum

 

[Pin-seeker]

Sadly these days money is what it's all about which is why Chelsea and City have stolen a march on some sides. Whether United, Arsenal and Liverpool will ever have such an open cheque book policy to the same extent is open to debate although I doubt it. Whether FFP will change this is an interesting conundrum

Utd currently have the most expensive squad ever in English football.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Of course I admit it. When have I said otherwise??

Let's say Liverpools owners handed Brenda a open Cheque book,what would he do?
And would you be happy with him buying the best players available??

Nope wouldn't want success the same way as you and City have got it, by spending 3-4 times what your rivals have done over a SUSTAINED period, not just over 6 months.

Anyway we've had this argument 10 times now, I'm sure your bored with it as much as I am.

#chelseagreattrophyhaulbutneveradmiredorlovedbytheneutrals. Sorry couldn't resist.