williamalex1
Money List Winner
As said in a earlier post Duncan Ferguson a Rangers and Everton player was jailed in 1995 for 3 months for headbutting during a game.
Luiz Suarez
- Thread starter Kellfire
- Start date
In_The_Rough
Tour Winner
He was however the reson the police stepped in was that he had 4 previous convictions away from football, so they obviously decided to step in and try and teach him a lesson. Where do you draw the line for police getting involved though that is the problem, I would rather they be out on the streets catching real crooks that fannying about with fruit loop footballers who have had a dust up on the pitch.
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
Ivanovic isn't the police or procurator fiscal, should it not be up to them to say if a crime / assault has happened .
Excuse me, can you move over there and get in the "overreactors" line, please.
No not there, that's the biased line. The one in between the "obvious agenda" and the "I'll just quote Robbie Savage/Joey Barton, to sound controversial" line.
Sheesh.
I can't see the point in splitting hairs over a bite is worse then headbutting is worse than spitting, or vice versa. All are well over the line. Should LFC get rid? That's up to them but TBH is any club squeaky clean in the idiot department? Pretty much every club has had its fair share of crazies at one time or another.
His previous ban for biting was 7 matches. Should that be taken into account? Should his previous transgressions be taken into account? I guess the FA has a duty of care to all the other players but if they act true to form it'll be a 2 match ban and a trip to Disneyland Paris.
His previous ban for biting was 7 matches. Should that be taken into account? Should his previous transgressions be taken into account? I guess the FA has a duty of care to all the other players but if they act true to form it'll be a 2 match ban and a trip to Disneyland Paris.
bladeplayer
Money List Winner
F.A are a bunch of idiots & are on a hiding to nothing on this one , what ever ban he gets is going to be compared to others , is the biting worse than the racism ones that have gone before ? is biting one worse than a leg breaking or carrer ending tackle ..
Not having a go at LFC here guys & NO I don't have the answer but is fining a millionaire a punishment ? why didn't they send him to work with the schools or under age soccer .. something he would have to actualy do .. don't get me wrong its great the fund gets a windfall , but a windfall for this reason .. im not so sure .. as I said its an observation not a critisism
Not having a go at LFC here guys & NO I don't have the answer but is fining a millionaire a punishment ? why didn't they send him to work with the schools or under age soccer .. something he would have to actualy do .. don't get me wrong its great the fund gets a windfall , but a windfall for this reason .. im not so sure .. as I said its an observation not a critisism
Slime
Tour Winner
I wonder what Suarez would have been thinking if he watched van Persie last night.
I bet he'd have felt slightly foolish.
Slime.
I bet he'd have felt slightly foolish.
Slime.
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
Totally agree, fines for players at this level mean nothing.
MegaSteve
Tour Winner
As an aside...
Anyone else remember the Norman Hunter Bites Yer Legs banner from back in the day...
Anyone else remember the Norman Hunter Bites Yer Legs banner from back in the day...
Five&One
Head Pro
I'm sure that there is a regulation or a standard in footballers contracts which specifies the highest possible disciplinary punishment as being 2 weeks wages.
It is of course open to Liverpool FC to revert to standard EU employment law and dismiss him for gross misconduct, taking into account his previous transgressions which include one other sackable offence.
What Liverpool have done here is disgusting protectionism. They have applied the maximum disciplinary punishment which is a drop in the ocean to Suarez and theyve played the Hillsborough card rather offensively and not for the first time. What proportion of Suarez's hefty salary to date has previously been given to a Hillsborough fund ? Exactly what I'm thinking it is probably.
They should have had the balls to sack him over the racism thing and they are being re-visited for retaining the services of a lunatic simply because he is an asset that they have no hope whatsoever of replacing within their budget. They bleat about their reputation as if its intact, thriving and something to be proud of, whereas every one outside of Merseyside knows that the reputation of Liverpool FC has never managed to climb out of the gutter that Heysel threw it into. They're just scared to actually come out and say it about that particular club purely and simply because of the 96. The media know it. Liverpool FC know it and the FA know it.
Last edited:
In_The_Rough
Tour Winner
Yeah sack their only world class player that they paid £25 million for, so they end up vastly out of pocket and a world class player short no football club in the world would have sacked him racist or not
bladeplayer
Money List Winner
Where your thoughts might be true & maybe they should have sacked him , you tell me any business that could/ would write off a possible £20 million asset .. as you said yourself ..
"simply because he is an asset that they have no hope whatsoever of replacing within their budget."
LFC like all other clubs is a business , businesses need to be successful &profitable and yes it is as "simple" as that ..
Five&One
Head Pro
Thats the reality and I have no real problem with it. Sad though it is. However, to bring Hillsborough into the equation is a cynical attempt to soften opinion and I'd be quite concerned if I was a relative about how often Liverpool play the Hillsborough card when it isnt relevant to the issue at hand.
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
Hillsborough is not a "card" - it is a 24 year open wound, and for you to just dismiss it as that, says more about you.
I'd like to see you raise that subject so flippantly to someones face, rather than from behind a safe keyboard.
Slime
Tour Winner
That should do it
.Slime.
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
Hahaha love it:rofl:
Pin-seeker
Well-known member
Lets be honest,it wasn't Surez's idea to pay the fine to the Hillsborough foundation. He's not smart enough. It'll av been some PR spin doctor's idea. Couldn't they have just paid it to them with out broadcasting it???
PhilTheFragger
Provider of Entertainment for the Golfing Gods 🙄
From Suarez' point of view, what's the problem, not going to get any medals this year, maybe he fancies starting his holidays early, and he knows that any ban will just be an FA one, so if he did get the boot from anfield , he knows could walk into another well paid team
anywhere in the world, agent in tow and start again.
Needs an introduction to the real world
The only thing you can say is that he won't be able to do that in 5/6 years time as nobody will want him
anywhere in the world, agent in tow and start again.
Needs an introduction to the real world
The only thing you can say is that he won't be able to do that in 5/6 years time as nobody will want him
wrighty1874
Journeyman Pro
"When you live on a farm and you bite someones arm that's a Suarez
When your forehead is wide and your teeth are offside that's a Suarez
When you cheat and you dive and hate Jackson Five that's a Suarez
When your gums are so tight like you've strained for a s++++e that's a Suarez!!
When your forehead is wide and your teeth are offside that's a Suarez
When you cheat and you dive and hate Jackson Five that's a Suarez
When your gums are so tight like you've strained for a s++++e that's a Suarez!!
Last edited:
Sweep
Journeyman Pro
All very noble talk from the manager last night about no-one being bigger than the club and today no more than an undisclosed fine. As many have said on here, what is the point of a fine to a top footballer these days? And when in the real world do you get to choose where your fine goes? I have to agree, it is a cynical ploy. As Liverbirdie says, Hillsborough is a 24 year open wound and that makes this so much worse IMHO.
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
I think you have slightly mis-understood me.
I was posting in response to the bitter fool who is bringing Heysel up and talking about Hillsborough as a "card".
From what we're led to believe, Suarez, not the club, asked for it to be donated to the HFSG. Ok, I'm not naive enough to think that this may not have been instigated by the club, but does it matter? I think it would have been better to offer it to a charity of Ivanovic's choice, but there you go.
The fact is he has been fined, which I don't think will make any difference, although at least the fines have gone outside the club, and to a worthy cause. I think 4-6 matches ban is about right.
I won't defend what he has done, but I will defend against the hysterical reaction to it.
Before Sunday, how many of us (outside of Spurs and Hammers fans) could name the last time a premiership player bit another - probably less than 2%. The Defoe/mascherano incident passed without any fanfare. Compare it to this situation, totally different.
OK, Suarez doesn't do himself any favours, and has done it before, but an overreaction by the media,forums and people with large chips on their shoulders towards LFC have blown it up out of all proportion.
