Liverpool - It's not looking too bad in the transfer market

[MadAdey]

That`s why you post on here like me and Wenger is manager of Arsenal football club whose PL record is only 2nd to sir Alex , if my post are laughable then at least people have a laugh , yours are not even worth reading as they show a lack of understand of the subject matter , the the older you get the wiser you get , does this apply to you ?

None more blind than those that can't see!!!!!!!!


i think pretty much every footie fan on here is honest about there own team and have some good chats about the subject. Most Chelsea fans will tell you that not having a Goal scorer last year cost them the league and every Liverpool, even though happy with the season, will tell you the defence let us down. City will tell you all is good and you think the Arsenal team is perfect, apart from a new striker, that is why they finished 4th..........

so please enlighten me as to how Wenger is turning you into title contenders, or what, as an Arsenal, you would like to see to turn them back into title contenders. You dodge this question regularly.....

 

[Pin-seeker]

For a team that spent as much money as they have - they struggled , they didn't have a proper goalscorer and believe they still haven't.

Things arrived a little early for BR last season and i just hope some hasn't raised their expectations too highly and realise it's still a building game at the moment. We aren't title challenges yet and we still need to develop as a squad so yes it will take a bit of time.

Haven't 02 and 09 we didn't build the squad with the right players - BR is buying the right players I believe to continue building that squad - those youngsters are just going to keep,getting better. Sterling is going to explode into a world class player very soon.

Thankfully I think our owners are patient and have bought into the long game - normal we ( the fans ) are very accepting of allowing managers to develop alongside as we see signs of someone putting the club first - believe we will continue to allow BR the time to gel the team

No one as blinkered as you on this forum Phil. Every Liverpool signing is top draw according to you. Brenda can do no wrong according to you.
Sanchez snubbed you for Arsenal & you put it down to being in London alone,realistically it probably was also down to constantly playing CL football & having a big name manager.
Costa could go either way I'll admit that,but you seem happy to call him a one season wonder,is Lellana any different tho?

Let's be honest Phil you'd argue black is white just to start a debate to fill your evening,quite sad really.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

So people like JCW are saying that we are making bad signings, this is how I see them. Take it apart or give your opinion.....


Lambert: proven in the PL with 13 goals and 10 assists last year. Good touch for a big man, can hold it up, bringing other players in and can really trouble defences from set pieces.


Lallana: proven In the PL with 9 goals and 8 assists last year. Fantastic on the ball and can play in a supporting role up top, outside or in a CM position.


Lovren: proved he could hack it in the PL last year, scored a couple and set one up showing that he can provide a threat from set pieces. From what I remember looks very comfortable on the ball and will help solidify the defence.


Markovic: do not know much about him apart from he is fast and good with the ball at his feet. Looks like he could be useful from what I have seen so far. 20 years old and a good prospect for the future.


Can: Big, young strong all round midfielder. Looks like the same sort of player as Gerrard/Toure, not saying as good as Toure, but that type of player. Managed to score 4 goals and set up another 4 playing from a defensive role last year, so has the ability to make an impact going forward as well as defending.


Origi: bit of an unknown quantity, but did score goals last year and looks like he could be good. Only 19 so loaning him back to Lille is good business to get him more playing time next year.


Moreno: deal going through in the next couple of days. Good quality highly thought of in Spain, only 22 so still time to get better. Should help tighten up the defence in the LB role, but is fast and good on e ball and can provide an outlet to the midfield.


Manquillo: another deal going through in the next couple of days. Only 20 so very young still, but is another exciting young prospect that hopefully shows why people see him as the next Spanish RB.


So that is how I see the transfers. 3 proven PL players and 5 young prospects. You can't replace Suarez, but you can reshape the team to compensate for it. Rogers knows that the club does not have the riches of City and Chelsea, so is trying to get some good young players in to build for the future. He has said all along that is his aim.

Adey, I'm concerned there's no new striker been bought 10days before the season starts.

Buying a striker was the most important signing imo.

Sturridge is injured and it looks likely we'll be starting the season with just Lambert and Borini but it's alright we've signed some young potential for the future.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So people like JCW are saying that we are making bad signings, this is how I see them. Take it apart or give your opinion.....


Lambert: proven in the PL with 13 goals and 10 assists last year. Good touch for a big man, can hold it up, bringing other players in and can really trouble defences from set pieces.


Lallana: proven In the PL with 9 goals and 8 assists last year. Fantastic on the ball and can play in a supporting role up top, outside or in a CM position.


Lovren: proved he could hack it in the PL last year, scored a couple and set one up showing that he can provide a threat from set pieces. From what I remember looks very comfortable on the ball and will help solidify the defence.


Markovic: do not know much about him apart from he is fast and good with the ball at his feet. Looks like he could be useful from what I have seen so far. 20 years old and a good prospect for the future.


Can: Big, young strong all round midfielder. Looks like the same sort of player as Gerrard/Toure, not saying as good as Toure, but that type of player. Managed to score 4 goals and set up another 4 playing from a defensive role last year, so has the ability to make an impact going forward as well as defending.


Origi: bit of an unknown quantity, but did score goals last year and looks like he could be good. Only 19 so loaning him back to Lille is good business to get him more playing time next year.


Moreno: deal going through in the next couple of days. Good quality highly thought of in Spain, only 22 so still time to get better. Should help tighten up the defence in the LB role, but is fast and good on e ball and can provide an outlet to the midfield.


Manquillo: another deal going through in the next couple of days. Only 20 so very young still, but is another exciting young prospect that hopefully shows why people see him as the next Spanish RB.


So that is how I see the transfers. 3 proven PL players and 5 young prospects. You can't replace Suarez, but you can reshape the team to compensate for it. Rogers knows that the club does not have the riches of City and Chelsea, so is trying to get some good young players in to build for the future. He has said all along that is his aim.

Great post - agree 100% :thup:

 

[Foxholer]

No one as blinkered as you on this forum Phil. Every Liverpool signing is top draw according to you. Brenda can do no wrong according to you.
Sanchez snubbed you for Arsenal & you put it down to being in London alone,realistically it probably was also down to constantly playing CL football & having a big name manager.
Costa could go either way I'll admit that,but you seem happy to call him a one season wonder,is Lellana any different tho?
...

As I see it, Phil is simply viewing through Rose-Tinted glasses (contacts).

JCW posts, on the other hand, indicate he's truly blinkered!

 

[MadAdey]

Adey, I'm concerned there's no new striker been bought 10days before the season starts.

Buying a striker was the most important signing imo.

Sturridge is injured and it looks likely we'll be starting the season with just Lambert and Borini but it's alright we've signed some young potential for the future.

I think Rogers is being careful not to rush into a panic buy and will not be forced into it. I think he is holding money back due to the fact there has been talk of Cavani, Lavezzi & Falcao coming onto the market, not sure if one of them could really be tempted as Chelsea would defiantly in another quality forward.

Remy to me was being looked at because of how relatively cheap he was and money would still be there if a big name became available. The last time a top striker was sold at Anfield a panic buy was made and we paid £35m for Carroll, so if Rogers is holding on for the right player then good on him. I would prefer to buy no one than do another Carroll and pay £20m over the odds.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

As I see it, Phil is simply viewing through red blinkers.

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Rogers is the new Messiah. Every signing is top rate. Every player is going to be brilliant. Lots of inexperience at PL level in the signings and still not convinced Lallana is as great as he's made out and to my mind was a big fish in a smallish pool at Southampton.

I think Chelsea have been clever and got the fire power they lacked last season and weren't too far behind despite having no one who could get it in the net. City seem ominously happy with everything and have so much talent it's hard to be anything but concerned about them winning. United look right on it after the new manager came in and suddenyl everyone wants to play again. Arsenal I think have done well and their signings would feel me with far more confidence than the Liverpool ones

 

[Pin-seeker]

I think Rogers is being careful not to rush into a panic buy and will not be forced into it. I think he is holding money back due to the fact there has been talk of Cavani, Lavezzi & Falcao coming onto the market, not sure if one of them could really be tempted as Chelsea would defiantly in another quality forward.

Remy to me was being looked at because of how relatively cheap he was and money would still be there if a big name became available. The last time a top striker was sold at Anfield a panic buy was made and we paid £35m for Carroll, so if Rogers is holding on for the right player then good on him. I would prefer to buy no one than do another Carroll and pay £20m over the odds.

Doesn't appear to be many top strikers available at the minute. Remy would have been a good signing at that price,
Haven't really seen much of Bony but his record was pretty good last season. Looks like Swansea won't let him go for less than £20m tho.

 

[MadAdey]

Doesn't appear to be many top strikers available at the minute. Remy would have been a good signing at that price,
Haven't really seen much of Bony but his record was pretty good last season. Looks like Swansea won't let him go for less than £20m tho.

There are never many top class forwards available in the transfer windows, that is unless someone is willing to break the bank. Torres £50m, Cavani £50m, Falcao £47m, Sanchez £45m, just to name a few players that have taken big money to get their club to release them. Can Liverpool really find that sort of money as it is going to take £40m

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Me too although as I've said money talks and so if the price is right he could end up in Spain. All said and done I doubt it though

There are never many top class forwards available in the transfer windows, that is unless someone is willing to break the bank. Torres £50m, Cavani £50m, Falcao £47m, Sanchez £45m, just to name a few players that have taken big money to get their club to release them. Can Liverpool really find that sort of money as it is going to take £40m

We keep being told we've still got the Suarez money to buy a striker, they've only spent £15m NETT this summer.

In all businesses it's all about NETT spend not GROSS.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

As I see it, Phil is simply viewing through red blinkers.

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Rogers is the new Messiah. Every signing is top rate. Every player is going to be brilliant. Lots of inexperience at PL level in the signings and still not convinced Lallana is as great as he's made out and to my mind was a big fish in a smallish pool at Southampton.

I think Chelsea have been clever and got the fire power they lacked last season and weren't too far behind despite having no one who could get it in the net. City seem ominously happy with everything and have so much talent it's hard to be anything but concerned about them winning. United look right on it after the new manager came in and suddenyl everyone wants to play again. Arsenal I think have done well and their signings would feel me with far more confidence than the Liverpool ones

When has anyone ever suggested anything of the sort. It's a nonsense comment that adds nothing

Lallana has had two good seasons in the Prem and performed very well ,as has Lambert plus Lovren who settled very well - that's the main expirenced players and will fit more straight into 1st -

The rest are highly rated youngsters with great potential to develop into very good players - Markovic is only 20 yet has CL expirence already.

It comes as no shock at all that you don't rate our chances - you have mentioned it on a daily basis how lowly you rate our chances.

BR is starting of very well for us - no one has called him the messiah or anything of the like - unless you want to show anything different

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Javier Manquillo has signed on a two year loan deal - £5mil

Lots of clauses - chance to buy him throughout at around £10mil

 

[Foxholer]

As I see it, Phil is simply viewing through red blinkers.

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Rogers is the new Messiah. Every signing is top rate. Every player is going to be brilliant. Lots of inexperience at PL level in the signings and still not convinced Lallana is as great as he's made out and to my mind was a big fish in a smallish pool at Southampton.

I think Chelsea have been clever and got the fire power they lacked last season and weren't too far behind despite having no one who could get it in the net. City seem ominously happy with everything and have so much talent it's hard to be anything but concerned about them winning. United look right on it after the new manager came in and suddenyl everyone wants to play again. Arsenal I think have done well and their signings would feel me with far more confidence than the Liverpool ones

Oi! Sort your editing out!

And don't EVER change my text without acknowledging/FTFY-ing it! Ask Bobmac for his views on same (He's not happy about anyone changing it, even with a FTFY!)! You are putting your words into my statement! Which someone else. LPP in this case, then quotes!
It's not on! :rant:

 

[MadAdey]

We keep being told we've still got the Suarez money to buy a striker, they've only spent £15m NETT this summer.

In all businesses it's all about NETT spend not GROSS.

im im just guessing here, but with the Suarez money and his initial budget I would have thought he had around £140-£150 million to spend. So with the Moreno purchase looking going through that takes total spending to about £105m. So there's around £40m left, just enough to bring a top striker in. But I just don't know who he can get........

 

[JCW]

Well i have just caught up with all the new post on here , If Remy was that good wenger would have bought him long ago , most of the players sold wenger has had a look at them and he knows his stuff hard headed as he is and decided not for him , Lambert is the best value buy for me and Sanchez was the top top player available and choose Arsenal because of wenger , dont kid yourself , the rest are only full of promise ? I know Wenger needs a tough guy in the middle and i am sure he does too and the boy calum looks promising at CB . Now as for strikers and if liverpool are going to buy one , have they got the money to buy a Carvani or such and more to the point do these top guys want to go to Liverpool , In the PL only 2 managers are seen as top guys for what records they have and are respected for that so a top top striker would look at BM, RM & Barce before even looking at the PL and then its Arsenal , Chelsea , Man C & Utd , so that is 7 clubs in the pecking order before Liverpool and if you think not the you kidding yourself , note i dont put that 7 in any order . For me Wenger needs 2 good hard players ,DM & CB and also needs to park the bus and not stick to his way of playing no matter what and against who now and again , We all live in hope but what will take place we truly dont know but i shall enjoy seeing it all unfold anyow and by the way the goal post are now in Goodison Park

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Well i have just caught up with all the new post on here , If Remy was that good wenger would have bought him long ago , most of the players sold wenger has had a look at them and he knows his stuff hard headed as he is and decided not for him , Lambert is the best value buy for me and Sanchez was the top top player available and choose Arsenal because of wenger , dont kid yourself , the rest are only full of promise ? I know Wenger needs a tough guy in the middle and i am sure he does too and the boy calum looks promising at CB . Now as for strikers and if liverpool are going to buy one , have they got the money to buy a Carvani or such and more to the point do these top guys want to go to Liverpool , In the PL only 2 managers are seen as top guys for what records they have and are respected for that so a top top striker would look at BM, RM & Barce before even looking at the PL and then its Arsenal , Chelsea , Man C & Utd , so that is 7 clubs in the pecking order before Liverpool and if you think not the you kidding yourself , note i dont put that 7 in any order . For me Wenger needs 2 good hard players ,DM & CB and also needs to park the bus and not stick to his way of playing no matter what and against who now and again , We all live in hope but what will take place we truly dont know but i shall enjoy seeing it all unfold anyow and by the way the goal post are now in Goodison Park

Wow - just wow

I'm actually worried that you believe the utter nonsense you post.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

im im just guessing here, but with the Suarez money and his initial budget I would have thought he had around £140-£150 million to spend. So with the Moreno purchase looking going through that takes total spending to about £105m. So there's around £40m left, just enough to bring a top striker in. But I just don't know who he can get........

Still lots of talk about Lavezzi - wants high wages ( nearly Suarez level ) . Think we might see a relative unknown also arriving

 

[JCW]

Wow - just wow

I'm actually worried that you believe the utter nonsense you post.

Yes and its too the point , I know what Arsenal need , I don`t kid myself , only Sanchez is top drawer , the rest of Arsenal`s buys are full of promise just like most of Liverpools and any other club for that matter , Football is not the only thing that counts here , can the player settle at his new club , does he get on with his team mates or is he happy in the area he is living and does his wife and family like the area , can the players from abroad cope with the pace of the game and the weather , if they dont and fans give them the bird what will happen , most fall away and want to leave , anyway my post are wasted on the likes of you as your last post clearly shows your lack of understanding to how life is seen by others , some are born to lead or are leaders and others are sheep who only see what they want to see because they lack the quality to see otherwise , I not wasting my time debating with you as you move the goal post to suit and i cant be bothered

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Guys

2 things to note

1 Its all subjective and not worth fighting over
2 Someone please teach JCW to use the occasional paragraph

EYG

 

[JCW]

Guys

2 things to note








1 Its all subjective and not worth fighting over
2 Someone please teach JCW to use the occasional paragraph

EYG

I am what i am phil sorry mate .............train driver for years , never that good at writing reports about incidents as well , never had many in 35 years