Liverpool - It's not looking too bad in the transfer market

HomerJSimpson said:
Stuart

You may be right and clearly have a great understanding of your team. However I wonder how much the PL will have learned from your style and can't see how you'd play that way in the CL where a more measured approach may be needed. Every side makes defensive errors (Fulham made it an art form last year) but I think you lack a real leader at the back like an Adams or Bruce. Carragher was the man but now he's gone it seems to be missing a leader
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The CL is a complete kettle of fish. Look at how United struggled throughout Europe and i know they won it in twice in 20 yrs but they should've done better. They carried on playing the same way in europe as they were domestically throughout the 90's and early '00s.

I'm not too sure if Rodgers can adapt but only time will tell.

I agree regards having a leader at the back, somebody who'll take responsibility is exactly what we need. On his recent signings you'd expect Sakho (£18m) and Lovren (£20m) to be the number 1 pairing and out of them 2 which one is that leader?
 
HomerJSimpson said:
And that will get found out in the CL in particular.
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Who knows as yet - could play three at the back in CL , or could just score more than we concede - a ball hasn't been kicked yet and seen us written of already. We try to play a very high tempo possession game with lots of pressure on the ball - that could be very suited to Europe football
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Think we will see a mix throughout the season but wouldn't be surprised to see Lovren and Agger start and those two certainly very vocal and organised but can also see both Sahko and Skittles having plenty of time on the pitch - the tactics will leave us exposed at times and a lot of responsibility will be down to players like Can , Henderson and Allen to fill the gaps ( especially when the fullbacks go forward )

BR will find the balance and will work out the strengths - we will sacrifice a bit at the back at times
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Unless forced, swapping and changing CB's is dangerous tactics.

My point is out of all those CB's we've got theres nobody you can say is the leader/organiser.
 
Stuart_C said:
Unless forced, swapping and changing CB's is dangerous tactics.

My point is out of all those CB's we've got theres nobody you can say is the leader/organiser.
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Agger is an organiser and a leader just needs to stay fit , Lovren also is - it's a squad game now and the CB's will be swapped dependant on the Oppo and comp.
 
HomerJSimpson said:
I was talking about the "rumoured" signings. :thup: Knew Lovren had gone through and don't think I ever mentioned him!
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Believe you responded to my post about spending £20mil on Lovren with the post -

Deals break down etc etc etc and the Lovren deal was confirmed at 10pm tonight
 
Stuart_C said:
The CL is a complete kettle of fish. Look at how United struggled throughout Europe and i know they won it in twice in 20 yrs but they should've done better. They carried on playing the same way in europe as they were domestically throughout the 90's and early '00s.

I'm not too sure if Rodgers can adapt but only time will tell.

I agree regards having a leader at the back, somebody who'll take responsibility is exactly what we need. On his recent signings you'd expect Sakho (£18m) and Lovren (£20m) to be the number 1 pairing and out of them 2 which one is that leader?
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I agree that United were sometimes unable to adapt and it cost them, particularly in the knockout stages. Difficult for Rodgers after a stellar season in the PL but with no CL experience to draw on it will be interesting to see what he does. Not sure swapping to three centre backs in the CL if its a back 4 in the PL is necessarily a good idea. Players aren't always great at dealing with change and different formations as Chelsea and United under Moyes proved. Still think you need a Carra like figurehead.

I liked the way Liverpool played last year as an armchair fan and would love to see you play the same way although as I mentioned the creativity and goals Suarez gave is a hard act to follow. I hope you can play the same way without perhaps the naivety (for want of a better word) at the back this time. Either way it'll be great to see them back in the CL
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Agger is an organiser and a leader just needs to stay fit , Lovren also is - it's a squad game now and the CB's will be swapped dependant on the Oppo and comp.
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Swapping and changing the back four will not breed a consistent solid defence that is desperately needed.

I agree re Agger but he's not reliable due to injuries so after spending £45m on 3 CB's in the last 12 months, we should get rid.

I like Agger btw.
 
Stuart_C said:
Swapping and changing the back four will not breed a consistent solid defence that is desperately needed.

I agree re Agger but he's not reliable due to injuries so after spending £45m on 3 CB's in the last 12 months, we should get rid.

I like Agger btw.
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The amount of games we will need to play this season the back four will need to change a number of times - the way BR drills the players the should be very interchangeable - it's a very fluid system we play anyway and even during the solid Rafa years we were constantly mixing the back four - Lovren will certainly play a lot more , will depend on who he strikes up the best understanding with.

I too like Agger - perfect for BR tactics - just made of glass
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Just spent £20mil on a CB with a LB and RB in the pipeline to arrive
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Liverpoolphil said:
Believe you responded to my post about spending £20mil on Lovren with the post -

Deals break down etc etc etc and the Lovren deal was confirmed at 10pm tonight
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That was the post I responded to. Nothing to do with Lovren who I knew had signed as its all over SSN.
 
what needs to be pointed out is we needed a better squad not only to maintain a PL challenge but to hopefully compete in the cups and by that I mean domestic and CL. Thats a lot of games and last season when we had a couple of key injuries we lacked depth in the squad.

I agree a couple more top quality players would be ideal but I also feel we can still compete with current players. Plenty of service to sturridge and goals coming from midfuield will hopefully make up for the massive loss of Suarez.... time will tell but my cup is half full right now and filling more each day :)
 
G1BB0 said:
what needs to be pointed out is we needed a better squad not only to maintain a PL challenge but to hopefully compete in the cups and by that I mean domestic and CL. Thats a lot of games and last season when we had a couple of key injuries we lacked depth in the squad.

I agree a couple more top quality players would be ideal but I also feel we can still compete with current players. Plenty of service to sturridge and goals coming from midfuield will hopefully make up for the massive loss of Suarez.... time will tell but my cup is half full right now and filling more each day :)
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I can see plenty of reasons to be optimistic. Not quite sure you'll hit the same PL heights but the European adventure after your CL hiatus will be interesting
 
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