Lessons

[chipsandegg]

hi all,
what i was wondering is, is it a bad idea to have lessons off 2 pros at 2 different places? I have Lessons at my own club with the pro and am thoroughly enjoying them and my game is slowly but surely improving. The other Pro is at the driving range/course where i practice and sometimes play. i was just thinking would it do any harm say to play a round at the range with the other pro just to get some game management advice. I can obviously get advice on game management from the pro at my own club but do you think it could harm to get a different view?
cheers in advance as usual for any advice
Andy

 

[jeffc]

IMO second opinion is always worth having,

I do sometimes worry that I am offending one pro by having lessons of another

 

[chipsandegg]

Yeah, thats how i feel, its like cheating on your g/riend lol

 

[Doh]

Why dont you ask your pro at your club to give you a course managment lesson this is where you play most of your golf.
I think it's best to stick to one pro,you say things are going well with your club pro and that your improving.

Use the range time to practice what your being taught by your club pro.

There is a process to teaching so your club pro will have a clear idea at what stage your at and what he will want you to do move on to next.

I think using two pros could become confusing.

 

[Twire]

Why would you want to see two different pro's?

 

[jeffc]

Why would you want to see two different pro's?

for a second opinion!

 

[CarpeDiem]

for a second opinion!

But if what he tells you is completly different from your club pro you might be a little stuck.

 

[Twire]

Why would you want to see two different pro's?

for a second opinion!

Yep, I could understand that if you were going for a major heart opperation or simular, but not for a golf lesson.

What happens if their opinions conflict, do you go for a third opinion?

IMHO I'd rather stick with the one, and if it doesn't work out or you don't like his teaching methods, then change.

 

[bobmac]

for a second opinion!

But if what he tells you is completly different from your club pro you might be a little stuck.

That wouldn't happen if they are both PGA Pros.
They may use different phrases for saying the same thing or teach things in slightly different order, but the message should be the same.
I would however stick with your club pro and have an on-course lesson soon.
Good luck with it

 

[Dodger]

for a second opinion!

But if what he tells you is completly different from your club pro you might be a little stuck.

That wouldn't happen if they are both PGA Pros.
They may use different phrases for saying the same thing or teach things in slightly different order, but the message should be the same.
I would however stick with your club pro and have an on-course lesson soon.
Good luck with it

I can't believe as a Pro you have just stated that!We have 2 PGA qualified pro's at our place alone that teach different beliefs,if they all taught the same message then Tour pro's wouldn't move around from coach to coach like they do....Simon Holmes and Leadbetter teach 2 totally different beliefs to name but 2!

 

[Macster]

I would stay with one, otherwise you'll tie yourself in knots perhaps.

Finding someone you relate with is very important, and can do wonders with your game.
Years ago, I took lessons of the assistant at a local Club, who was my age, and we just hit it off, and could sort me out every time I went to him.
Unfortunately, for me, he chose to go be an Architect instead !! :-(

Otherwise, I'd still be visiting.

 

[bobmac]

Ok, maybe I phrased that wrongly.
There are different methods of teaching the full swing, the stack and tilt is an example.
But with chips and egg, his problem is his short game.
Not too many different ways in teaching the basics of that.
Sorry for the confusion

 

[viscount17]

I don't know about that bobmac,

I caught a programme on Setanta Golf yesterday in which they were, maybe deliberately, contrasting different pros; Leadbetter and Harmon were just two.

Didn't have the same view on anything from the ground up, not even ball position with Harmon's there is only one to Leadbetter's three.

Talk about confusing!

 

[Macster]

Well i'd be a Leadbetter man then........

ball forward for a floated Lob Wedge...

Mid stance for normal iron shots

Back in stance for a punched low iron shot or slightly back for extra attack onto a Wedge.

Cant stand Butch Harmon, loves himself too much, and the way he stares/talks into the camera on Sky really gets my back up.
And his strange squint is un-nerving too........

 

[USER1999]

I don't go for the squint, but at least his legs and body are in proportion, not like a giant spider, and he doesn't wear a silly hat, or try to flog me magnetic bracelets.

 

[chipsandegg]

i was considering the second lesson more for the course management side of things really. like i said i am more than happy with the lessons im having at my own club, hes a great teacher and a top lad aswell. i just thought it would be interesting what another pro would talk to me about as regards the way i apply myself on the course. i am in agreement with bob about they should be teaching you in a similair sort of way regarding my swing and things (at my blevel anyway)but just thought what they may tell you well actually playing may be of help.
thanks to all for advice, really appreciate it.

 

[TonyN]

I have a similar Dilemma too.

I have been coached by a guy at the range I use for the last year. He has built my swing and knows it very well. Mainly because it is very similar to his own so modeled it on himself. Makes teaching me so much easier for him and learning so much easier for me when he shows me.

I have just moved to a new club and the pro there is a great guy and I am keen to support him. I want lessons on my putting and have heard he is a top draw putter. So I decided I would use him for putting lessons but stick with Jamie (range coach) for all things swing related.

I don't see the problem with having two coaches as long as there teaching different things that are not going to conflict.

No problem in one guy telling you HOW to hit the ball and the other telling you WHERE to hit the ball.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

My coach is spot on. He remodelled my swing and made it a lot better than it was but accepts I'll never be textbook. He still wants to do some work on tempo which if anyone saw my recent videos is an area that clearly can be improved. We are part way through set of lessons on the short game (bunkers on Saturday) and its this area we are targetting in the run up to the season. From there I'll probably get a long game refresher once every 3 months unless I hit a patch of poor form. He has the ability to get the point across not only in a way that I understand but that I remember. He only ever gives me two drills to take away and work on and will always give me a 5 minute quick look if he gets a chance.

From that perspective I don't have any need to get a 2nd opinion although I have been tempted to ask one of the other pros for a lesson. Basically the guy was a model pro and said no and that he wouldn't be happy to give me a lesson as he knew how hard Grant and I had been working and that it wasn't fair on Grant. Fair play to the guy as he could have waited for Grant to have a day off and said yes and no-one would have been any wiser.