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Getting pretty fed up with this Aussie's posturing... If he is innocent of the charges laid against him in Sweden why didn't he seek help from his own Embassy rather than that of a banana republic... Is it because he is guilty and as the Ecuadorian minister [a bit too gleefully] told us there is no rape law in Ecuador... You've out stayed your welcome cobber... Man up and face the music in Sweden...
 
Maybe he is innocent but is aware of the powers that be who will do anything and everything to get him locked up or killed?

After all, he is ousting all their hidden info! What else cold they be hiding? Long may wiki leaks function
 
Well he's not going anywhere else.
He'll get pulled as soon as he walks out of the door.
Equador will get bored of him sooner or later.
He should Man up and grow a pair....
 
Actually I think Sweden should 'man up' and not be bitches to the USA. Guarantee that he'll only face the charges in hand and not a subsequent deportation to the US. They should try him on neutral ground if it means that much to them after all any 'fair' trial is already tainted.
 
Disgusting horrible little ****. Wants everyone else to face justice and doesn't care how it happens but doesn't like it when it happens to him.

Leave him to rot in the Ecuadorian embassy. If he does get smuggled out and makes it to Ecuador, I am sure the American special forces will pay him a visit.

Either way, don't waste any more time or money on this revolting parasite.
 
He isn't charged with rape, in fact he isn't charged with anything yet. These allegations probably do not constitute an offence under UK law, and appear to have been revived after initially being dropped, as a pretext for a staged extradition.

Everyone knows that the UK is sensitive to the issue of US extradition, after the debacles McKinnon and Neil Tappin's father, so it would not be unlikely they have agreed with the US that they will get him to Sweden and the US can extradite from there.

Assange appears to be a self-publicist, narcissist and a bit of an arse, but the stuff he has done with Wikileaks should be wakening people up to what their Governments are doing. I think he has every right to be suspicious of the risk of US extradition after seeing how Manning has been treated there and to avoid it. Presumably there is some diplomatic activity going on to get assurances that the Swedes will not extradite to the US, and if so, I suspect he will go.
 
Let me get this straight. They guy, pretty much, steals sensitive government emails/data, publishes them on his website and expects nothing to be done?

What colour is the sky in his world???? Seriously!!

For what it's worth, I think the allegations (rape) levelled at him are false and an attempt by various governments to discredit him, but then, if you have noting to hide..........

With a bit of luck an agreement will be made so he can answer the charges in a neutral venue. Either that or our government suspend the Vienna convention and the diplomatic status of the embassy and send the heavies in to drag him off o prison, then on to Sweden, then hopefully the USA. I have no preference to which!
 
The bloke and his website and his staff compromised the security of the whole western world and its allies.... hang the *******.
Regardless of peoples stand point on free speech and all this hippy crap, things are secret for a reason.
The fact that we can all walk around as free as we do these days is because governments have kept secrets.
 
jeardley said:
The bloke and his website and his staff compromised the security of the whole western world and its allies.... hang the *******.
Regardless of peoples stand point on free speech and all this hippy crap, things are secret for a reason.
The fact that we can all walk around as free as we do these days is because governments have kept secrets.
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Complete and utter nonsense. You read too many spy novels. Did you forget to also mention that he is an immigrant?

The safety and security of the western world was endangered by these wars based on lies and corporate expansion. The only reason Israel is worried about Iran right now is that the country which kept Iran in check was taken out by a war based on George Bush's family issues and a dodgy dossier. Assange has helped expose some of these activities.

There is a famous saying you have probably never read while reading (sic) The Daily Mail - "Sunlight is the best disinfectant". Which means that transparency and openness are needed to get rid of bad stuff.
 
Ethan said:
Complete and utter nonsense. You read too many spy novels. Did you forget to also mention that he is an immigrant?

The safety and security of the western world was endangered by these wars based on lies and corporate expansion. The only reason Israel is worried about Iran right now is that the country which kept Iran in check was taken out by a war based on George Bush's family issues and a dodgy dossier. Assange has helped expose some of these activities.

There is a famous saying you have probably never read while reading (sic) The Daily Mail - "Sunlight is the best disinfectant". Which means that transparency and openness are needed to get rid of bad stuff.
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Where can transparancy or truth be found now tho Ethan ?, surely after all these years of lies (on all sides), wars & corruption the truth is nowhere to be found anymore , is the world safer or more dangerous for ordinary people because these "leaks" ??

if there is retaliation for what was leaked who will suffer ? those in the ivory towers that were financed by greed or the ordinary people?

100% agree that the wars were based on lies & corporate expansion , or more simply money & greed
 
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One thing you won't find is anything relating to the 'truth' with regard Assange himself... He and his supporters will have seen to that...

My gripe is... Why, in the first instance, did he not return to his own country [they unlike the UK don't have a record of handing over their citizens willy nilly]... If returning to his own country was not an immediate option then why did he not hand himself into the embassy of his home country?

He has done his best to bring down 'the system' now he wants to use 'the system' to protect him...
 
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MegaSteve said:
One thing you won't find is anything relating to the 'truth' with regard Assange himself... He and his supporters will have seen to that...

My gripe is... Why, in the first instance, did he not return to his own country [they unlike the UK don't have a record of handing over their citizens willy nilly]... If returning to his own country was not an immediate option then why did he not hand himself into the embassy of his home country either here or in Sweden?

He has done his best to bring down 'the system' now he wants to use 'the system' to protect him...
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Ironically I think he is being consistent. Wikileaks was all about exposing secrets and dodgy information which was conflated to justify political ends. Assange is concerned that there is a secret deal whereby the UK undertakes to get him back to Sweden and then the US issues it's extradition request, with which Sweden will comply and which is all about silencing/punishing political actions.

The fact Sweden does not have a record of handing over suspects is not the same as Sweden rejecting such requests. Perhaps they just haven't had any.

Look, Assange is clearly a dislikeable ****, but it is also entirely possible that he is being set up for a political agenda. You don't have to like him to see the danger in what is happening.
 
Ethan said:
He isn't charged with rape, in fact he isn't charged with anything yet. These allegations probably do not constitute an offence under UK law, and appear to have been revived after initially being dropped, as a pretext for a staged extradition
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I read over the weekend that in accordance with the Swedish legal system, formal charges will be laid only after extradition and a second round of questioning, and I assume that therefore he can't be charged 'in abstenia'
 
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I read over the weekend that in accordance with the Swedish legal system, formal charges will be laid only after extradition and a second round of questioning, and I assume that therefore he can't be charged 'in abstenia'
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Fine. The offences for which he is being investigated do not include rape, but to keep it PG could constitute a lesser offence associated consensual acts.
 
Ethan said:
You don't have to like him to see the danger in what is happening.
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It's not a question of liking him or not... To many he is a bit of a Robin Hood character and I can understand why... Not sure though what he has actually 'achieved' has helped out in any way... Confirmed what we all knew or at least suspected with regard many world 'events'...

Not sure what country he is actually a citizen of [as I said previously] you can't be sure of anything you read relating to him...

One thing I am sure of... No one is above the law! Assange, I believe, thinks he is...
 
How can you hold yourself up as a beacon for freedom of information and turn to Equador as an ally. It stinks of hypocricy.
 
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Is it the case that should he decide to go to Sweden and face the charges, the US could "bag" him, as we all know they like to do?

Presumably in Ecuador, they'd tell the US to shove it, should he ever get there.

I know what I'd be doing if I was him. Even if he gets to Ecuador, his days will be limited unless he hides away and grows a beard and learns Spanish and stops using the internet, and stops trying to make out he's some sort of messiah.

Silly case. I rather approve of wikileaks, but I don't fully understand it t.b.h.
 
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