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Jeremy Corbyn-Leadership quality?

toyboy54

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Just watched him being grilled by Andrew Neil on T.Vand despite may wanting to be inspired by him and Labour policies have came away being totally less than impressed with his inability to give a straight answer to any question asked and his total lack of personality/leadership quality.
So wanted to see him stand up and be quietly(but forceful)convincing when replying...you know...having some sense of conviction/presence...but all totally lacking!
Now in quandary as to who to vote for-was wanting to go for Labour(despite the plonker/lackey Leonard we have up here).

But Now?????
Jimbo
 
toyboy54 said:
Just watched him being grilled by Andrew Neil on T.Vand despite may wanting to be inspired by him and Labour policies have came away being totally less than impressed with his inability to give a straight answer to any question asked and his total lack of personality/leadership quality.
So wanted to see him stand up and be quietly(but forceful)convincing when replying...you know...having some sense of conviction/presence...but all totally lacking!
Now in quandary as to who to vote for-was wanting to go for Labour(despite the plonker/lackey Leonard we have up here).

But Now?????
Jimbo
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You could vote Tory.
I’m sure Boris answering every question with “get Brexit done” will provide the conviction and presence you require.
 
JamesR said:
You could vote Tory.
I’m sure Boris answering every question with “get Brexit done” will provide the conviction and presence you require.
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Yes he will just shout that and everybody will think he is golden.
 
Toyboy, i feel your pain. Won't be long before DFT comes along and says you have Jimmy Krankie.

You know what, we have a society that has food banks, women being robbed of pensions, shortage of houses, Police, NHS, Teachers on there arses. Armed forces slashed, unchecked immigration, thousands of unskilled EU migrants flooding the country. The Country itself being flooded through lack of spending, mega companies paying no tax. The bollox that is Brexit. etc etc bloody etc.
So why are the Tories running this country. Two words. Jeremy Corbyn. If you want to chuck another two words in Diane Abacus. They put the fear of god into joe public. The Majority of voters in this country are floating voters. Door Frae Toon is SNP through and through. Put a pig in a dress and she could lead the SNP. Well she did, but my point is there are the equivalent DFTs in Labour, Lib dems, Brexit Partys. There always will be, but its the floating voters that will put partys in power, and the floating voters see Jeremy Corbyn and the left wing Labour party as the worst of two evils. I am convinced that if Corbyn was not the leader of the labour party, we would not be having this election as Labour would already be in power.
As i see it, we will continue to see the Tories as the Major leading, lying party of this country. That will not change until Corbyn is gone after the next election, when the labour party can regroup under a middle of the rd leader. Until Labour change, the public will see the Tories as the lesser of two evils. If Labour changes for the better, then it will get into power and the Tories will have to change.
Me, am as bogged off as you.
 
Tashyboy said:
Toyboy, i feel your pain. Won't be long before DFT comes along and says you have Jimmy Krankie.

You know what, we have a society that has food banks, women being robbed of pensions, shortage of houses, Police, NHS, Teachers on there arses. Armed forces slashed, unchecked immigration, thousands of unskilled EU migrants flooding the country. The Country itself being flooded through lack of spending, mega companies paying no tax. The bollox that is Brexit. etc etc bloody etc.
So why are the Tories running this country. Two words. Jeremy Corbyn. If you want to chuck another two words in Diane Abacus. They put the fear of god into joe public. The Majority of voters in this country are floating voters. Door Frae Toon is SNP through and through. Put a pig in a dress and she could lead the SNP. Well she did, but my point is there are the equivalent DFTs in Labour, Lib dems, Brexit Partys. There always will be, but its the floating voters that will put partys in power, and the floating voters see Jeremy Corbyn and the left wing Labour party as the worst of two evils. I am convinced that if Corbyn was not the leader of the labour party, we would not be having this election as Labour would already be in power.
As i see it, we will continue to see the Tories as the Major leading, lying party of this country. That will not change until Corbyn is gone after the next election, when the labour party can regroup under a middle of the rd leader. Until Labour change, the public will see the Tories as the lesser of two evils. If Labour changes for the better, then it will get into power and the Tories will have to change.
Me, am as bogged off as you.
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I agree with most of what you've said Tash but behind Corbyn you have McDonnell and Momentum. For me, its when Momentum are gone.
 
Tashyboy said:
Toyboy, i feel your pain. Won't be long before DFT comes along and says you have Jimmy Krankie.

You know what, we have a society that has food banks, women being robbed of pensions, shortage of houses, Police, NHS, Teachers on there arses. Armed forces slashed, unchecked immigration, thousands of unskilled EU migrants flooding the country. The Country itself being flooded through lack of spending, mega companies paying no tax. The bollox that is Brexit. etc etc bloody etc.
So why are the Tories running this country. Two words. Jeremy Corbyn. If you want to chuck another two words in Diane Abacus. They put the fear of god into joe public. The Majority of voters in this country are floating voters. Door Frae Toon is SNP through and through. Put a pig in a dress and she could lead the SNP. Well she did, but my point is there are the equivalent DFTs in Labour, Lib dems, Brexit Partys. There always will be, but its the floating voters that will put partys in power, and the floating voters see Jeremy Corbyn and the left wing Labour party as the worst of two evils. I am convinced that if Corbyn was not the leader of the labour party, we would not be having this election as Labour would already be in power.
As i see it, we will continue to see the Tories as the Major leading, lying party of this country. That will not change until Corbyn is gone after the next election, when the labour party can regroup under a middle of the rd leader. Until Labour change, the public will see the Tories as the lesser of two evils. If Labour changes for the better, then it will get into power and the Tories will have to change.
Me, am as bogged off as you.
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The problem is Tash that theres hardly a fag papers width between the whole Labour front bench and The Night Garden. There are better people in the party and no doubt good candidates in the waiting but the problem as explained by Hobbit is that the driving core is rotten. Labour has to undergo a big collapse and be carried off in the Ninky Nonk before it can rebuild into something credible as a government.
 
Tashyboy said:
Toyboy, i feel your pain. Won't be long before DFT comes along and says you have Jimmy Krankie.

You know what, we have a society that has food banks, women being robbed of pensions, shortage of houses, Police, NHS, Teachers on there arses. Armed forces slashed, unchecked immigration, thousands of unskilled EU migrants flooding the country. The Country itself being flooded through lack of spending, mega companies paying no tax. The bollox that is Brexit. etc etc bloody etc.
So why are the Tories running this country. Two words. Jeremy Corbyn. If you want to chuck another two words in Diane Abacus. They put the fear of god into joe public. The Majority of voters in this country are floating voters. Door Frae Toon is SNP through and through. Put a pig in a dress and she could lead the SNP. Well she did, but my point is there are the equivalent DFTs in Labour, Lib dems, Brexit Partys. There always will be, but its the floating voters that will put partys in power, and the floating voters see Jeremy Corbyn and the left wing Labour party as the worst of two evils. I am convinced that if Corbyn was not the leader of the labour party, we would not be having this election as Labour would already be in power.
As i see it, we will continue to see the Tories as the Major leading, lying party of this country. That will not change until Corbyn is gone after the next election, when the labour party can regroup under a middle of the rd leader. Until Labour change, the public will see the Tories as the lesser of two evils. If Labour changes for the better, then it will get into power and the Tories will have to change.
Me, am as bogged off as you.
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Quite a sad indictment of the people that you’re making there.
A proven liar paid for by the rich is the best we can hope for which will result in more foodbanks, more poverty, more deaths due to Austerity.
No not for me, I’d rather risk Labour for the next 5 years than tories for 15.
 
Hobbit.....Like you I would accept most of Tashys comments(JamesR..The thought is vomit inducing and abhorrent so NO thank you).
The man? has no presence or authority and like the rest of them is trained to talk over/pontificate/will be looking atiffery rather than YES/NO WE Flocked That Up.
Think I'll vote for Andrew Neil.
Again I know that it is so far fetched as to be War Of The Worlds type/scenario but again I would refer you all to 2020 World Of War(World War 2020?? get it,read it,especially last three/four chapters).
Starting to think Dads Army and "we're Doomed"!
Jimbo
 
Which prime ministers and leaders of the opposition since 1970s (I don’t go much further back than that, that I can remember) were good leaders ?
 
sev112 said:
Which prime ministers and leaders of the opposition since 1970s (I don’t go much further back than that, that I can remember) were good leaders ?
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Good luck with that one Sev!

Not that I havn't thought some were much better than others but I raise you a name and someone will be along in 10 seconds to rubbish them
 
sev112 said:
Which prime ministers and leaders of the opposition since 1970s (I don’t go much further back than that, that I can remember) were good leaders ?
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For Labour, John Smith & Tony Blair. Through a very tough period Neil Kinnock was also a good leader, his reputation tarnished by his gravy train years.

You may not agree with the politics of the above but they were good leaders.

For the conservatives the obvious one is Margaret Thatcher. After that I'm not sure I would class any of her successors as good leaders.

Paddy Ashdown was a good leader for the LibDems but he stands alone imo for that party.
 
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pauldj42 said:
Quite a sad indictment of the people that you’re making there.
A proven liar paid for by the rich is the best we can hope for which will result in more foodbanks, more poverty, more deaths due to Austerity.
No not for me, I’d rather risk Labour for the next 5 years than tories for 15.
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I can see the logic in that Paul, and it is so tempting, but would putting this version of Labour in power lead down a path the UK shouldn't go. Both sides of the argument are currently extremes, and at this point I'd be voting LibDems. Mrs Shouty Woman and the anti-democrats - no way. Abstaining is looking on the cards.
 
Away from the political party. If there is one thing that has narked me, it has been a lot of the BBC/ITV grilling of these muppets. Fiona Bruce on QT is embarrassing. The woman on ITV last week, what on earth is that all about. The country is on its arse and Bojo and Comrade Corbyn are asked what they would buy one another for Xmas. give me bluddy strength.
People like Andrew Neil, Laura Kussenberg, Andrew Marr etc should be ripping these people to bits. These people have created massive fractures in our society that will take years to heal. They should be held accountable.
 
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We all have our own agendas but I'd say that Boris will not wreck the economy, he will be more prudent, whether you like him or not, he is less dangerous in the medium and long term. Corbyn will absolutely wreck the country for years to come as his plans are going to cost HUGE sums of money and may not only be wrecking the economy given that his plans are unaffordable, but it appears to assume that the EU and world economy wont go in to recession and that would be disastrous
 
Tashyboy said:
Away from the political party. If there is one thing that has narked me, it has been a lot of the BBC/ITV grilling of these muppets. Fiona Bruce on QT is embarrassing. The woman on ITV last week, what on earth is that all about. The country is on its arse and Bojo and Comrade Corbyn are asked what they would buy one another for Xmas. give me bluddy strength.
People like Andrew Neil, Laura Kussenberg, Andrew Marr etc should be ripping these people to bits. These people have created massive fractures in our society that will take years to heal. They should be held accountable.
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Kussenberg! You really need to google her, her tory bias is a disgrace!
 
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