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Lifted from the Beeb web site.


The pay gap between workers in the public sector and those in the private sector has widened, statistics show.

Public sector employees were paid 7.8% more on average than private sector staff in April 2010, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said.

This was a bigger gap than the 5.3% difference in 2007, the figures show.


So get back to work and stop ya whinging!


;)
 
I'm on a 4 year pay freeze. My pension contributions are being pushed up from 11% to 14% (gross). My retirement day has been pushed back by 9 years. You can go jump
 
I'm on a 4 year pay freeze. My pension contributions are being pushed up from 11% to 14% (gross). My retirement day has been pushed back by 9 years. You can go jump
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But as a fireman, you're also a professional volleyball player!! :D :D
 
The private sector dropped final salary pensions schemes years ago as being unaffordable. Previous governments have known that the public sector final salary scheme is unaffordable, but have done nothing about it for fear of losing votes. His Tonyness even increased the number of public sector workers during his tenure. Which hasn't helped.

Fwiw. You couldn't buy a 2/3rds final salary scheme for only 30 years of service if you tried. Paying 14% of your salary, agreeably tough now, will put you with a comfortable lifestyle in retirement. Meanwhile, the rest of us will be working until we die.

Sour grapes. Too right. I should have joined the public sector straight after school. At least I wouldn't have turned out hacked off that my taxes are paying your pension when I can't afford my own. Even if I could, it's not guaranteed. Unlike yours.

Believe me. I have a number of friends in the public sector, and all but one realise that they are lucky enough to have such a pension. The rest think it's their god given right. Which I don't mind for frontline people, armed forces, widows pensions for armed forces, frontline policemen and firemen etc. Ie. Those that risk their lives in the service of this country.

The rest. Please understand that we cannot afford it.

This isn't a dig at individuals, but more of a frustration with the blinkered, socialist views of those that stir it up. Unions.
 
But surely this is like comparing England's population with Scotland and saying on average 1.8 more people live in England, not exactly shocking is it?

How many million work in the private sector versus the public?
 
Dont get me started on the teachers , they only 'work' 3 weeks of the year and theyre always moaning about something. Mind you I wouldnt want to spend 2 mins with a bunch a teenage yobs let alone a few hours
 
Dont get me started on the teachers , they only 'work' 3 weeks of the year and theyre always moaning about something. Mind you I wouldnt want to spend 2 mins with a bunch a teenage yobs let alone a few hours
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Unlike most of the knockers, you at least acknowledge that you wouldn't want the job. But where in the world do you get three weeks a year from? If you knew half the story you would scurry back to your private sector job and never mention teachers or teaching again. Don't believe me? Go talk to some, most of them are trying to find a way out and into the private sector. :(
Just noticed you do work in the public sector, for the record I served a stint as a fireman and I now teach.
 
Lifted from the Beeb web site.


The pay gap between workers in the public sector and those in the private sector has widened, statistics show.

Public sector employees were paid 7.8% more on average than private sector staff in April 2010, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said.

This was a bigger gap than the 5.3% difference in 2007, the figures show.


So get back to work and stop ya whinging!


;)
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"There are lies, damned lies and statistics" Mark Twain.
 
Dont get me started on the teachers , they only 'work' 3 weeks of the year and theyre always moaning about something. Mind you I wouldnt want to spend 2 mins with a bunch a teenage yobs let alone a few hours
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Unlike most of the knockers, you at least acknowledge that you wouldn't want the job. But where in the world do you get three weeks a year from? If you knew half the story you would scurry back to your private sector job and never mention teachers or teaching again. Don't believe me? Go talk to some, most of them are trying to find a way out and into the private sector. :(
Just noticed you do work in the public sector, for the record I served a stint as a fireman and I now teach.
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Thought i'd deflect some flak towards the teachers as theyre in the news atm ;)
 
I hate the way they try to divide and conquer. I swear these stories are to remove sympathy from public sector workers so they less is thought about them when they are made redundant.

I also hate the way this groups highly paid civil servants pushing paper with low paid care assistants working in the NHS. Also the pensions are opt in and no everyone working in the public sector has one. There seem to be this though that every public sector worker will be finishing on final salary pension.

I'm a nurse working in the NHS. My current hourly rate is about the same as the local private sector nursing homes but the difference being I do get a higher rate when working night duties or Sundays. I am on a pay freeze so get no inflationary rise and am on rolling temporary contracts so may not actually have a job when my current contract finishes. Really doesn't feel like I'm better off.
 
It's good to hear from those 'in it'.

I suspect that the ONS figures have been released to coincide with the current dispute and give credence and sympathy to what the government are needing to do.

As always, there are two sides to the debate. Though I do think a reality check is needed regarding public spending.

It would appear that everyone is not equal in the public sector. So apologies if some of my ramblings came across as broad brush strokes.
 
Also check the data - I think I saw that because of the government shareholding, RBS are now classified as public sector; also in a lot of local authorities, the lower paid roles, such a care workers in residential care homes, operations staff in support services, etc. have been outsourced to the private sector, so there could well be changes in the mix of jobs between the two data sets.

I don't think that it is comparing salary levels for jobs of equivalent nature between the two sectors, so it probably comes under the heading of the fascinating outcome you get by dividing one random number by another.
 
Mirror - 2009 - 'Luxury-loving George Osborne broke his generous second home expenses limit with a series of claims that included the cost of having his posh stove serviced.

Figures released yesterday show the shadow chancellor put in a bill for £121 for checking his Aga oven'. It then goes on to list other 'expenses' like £800 a month cleaning costs etc.

That's alright then, as long as the money saved on people's pensions are going to be used wisely.
 
How do you know when a politician is lying?
His/her mouth is moving :mad:
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Billy Connolly got it right when he said that as soon as anyone declares an interest in becoming a polotician that should automatically bar them for life from being one.
 
I can confirm the teachers workload.

I have half a dozen teachers in my immediate family and the only free time they get is a weekend. There at school all day and if they do come home by 4.30pm, they're busy marking homework! It sucks but ultimately they do get weeks off in the summer and the half terms.

If I didn't do what I do now I'd love to teach.
 
Lifted from the Beeb web site.


The pay gap between workers in the public sector and those in the private sector has widened, statistics show.

Public sector employees were paid 7.8% more on average than private sector staff in April 2010, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) said.

This was a bigger gap than the 5.3% difference in 2007, the figures show.


So get back to work and stop ya whinging!


;)
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"There are lies, damned lies and statistics" Mark Twain.
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87% of statistics are made up!
 
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