how much lower would your handicap be if ..........

[hovis]

You had fresh lush grass to hit off at your range using pro v1's
had a bloke with you thats got all your yardages and carries your clubs
have 5000 people on your hole to tell you where your ball is
have 5000 pepole flattening the rough
relief from most errant approach shots because of grand stands and tv towers
no moorons leaving bunkers with foot prints
relief from plugged balls in the rough.

I only mention this because one of the young pga graduates at the belfry was playing up in scotland and he said it makes for quite easy golf when you can slap a 3 wood over the brow of a hill and get directed to your ball. I recon i'd be 3 less than my handicap

 

[AuburnWarrior]

Relief from plugged balls in the rough??

I'd be lower, without a doubt. I always play well when I've got a caddy.

 

[pbrown7582]

3 shots seems about right to me, I go with that too.

 

[hovis]

Relief from plugged balls in the rough??

I'd be lower, without a doubt. I always play well when I've got a caddy.

On tour alot of courses have a local rule for plugged ball in the rough.

 

[duncan mackie]

buggy or caddie is worth 2 shots to me on anything but a short flat course - the rest will depend on the course

in practice, knowing (believeing) that your ball will be found tends to mean you swing better and don't need that resource (apparently)

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

...I had some lessons...

 

[AuburnWarrior]

On tour alot of courses have a local rule for plugged ball in the rough.

That is poor! At their level, firstly they shouldn't be going in the rough and secondly, they should be able to deal with a plugged lie.

 

[wull]

Probably a good few shots but it goes to show how good those top boys really are.

Rory was off -5 when he turned pro so that's some going when he's in the same boat as us......at that stage anyway.

 

[brendy]

As Smange and myself were discussing the other day, Pros dont have internal OOB on their courses either, even if it exsits for amateurs.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Yes it is nice getting relief from advertising hoardings etc, crowds finding the ball for you et al but at the end of the day it is about how quickly you get it in the hole and a lot of these guys on the lower echelons (Europro) simply don't do it often enough to earn a spot on the main tour and if they get there, keep it.

 

[tsped83]

Can I trade all of the above for someone that could putt for me?

 

[Robobum]

For the amount of shots saved by all the points in the OP......I think they'd be countered by being unable to chip from thick lush rough around the green, a minimum of 7k yds courses and those 5000 people listening to my knees knock whilst trying to swing properly (presuming alls equal with the "pro tour" scenario)

 

[MashieNiblick]

Not to mention
The course being 7,600 yards long
Greens running like polished lino
Being watched by thousands of people standing a few feet from every tee waiting to shout "geddindahole" the moment you hit the ball
Playing for your living instead of your handicap

I'd be cat 4 in no time.

 

[stevelev]

...i practised ritually what what my pro told me told in between having had some lessons...

corrected

 

[stevelev]

probably a good few shots but it goes to show how good those top boys really are.

Rory was off +5 when he turned pro so that's some going when he's in the same boat as us......at that stage anyway.

corrected

 

[londonlewis]

You had fresh lush grass to hit off at your range using pro v1's
had a bloke with you thats got all your yardages and carries your clubs
have 5000 people on your hole to tell you where your ball is
have 5000 pepole flattening the rough
relief from most errant approach shots because of grand stands and tv towers
no moorons leaving bunkers with foot prints
relief from plugged balls in the rough.

I only mention this because one of the young pga graduates at the belfry was playing up in scotland and he said it makes for quite easy golf when you can slap a 3 wood over the brow of a hill and get directed to your ball. I recon i'd be 3 less than my handicap

Tell you what. I'll organise 5000 people to come and watch you tee off and we will see how well you get on.
Also, I'll have a big fat cheque waiting for you if you can beat 100 other players with the same handicap as you.
And we will see how many times you don't rake the bunkers yourself or repair all your pitch marks, replace divots and count how many rules you inadvertantly break without realising.

The pros have it so easy...

 

[scratch]

I doubt your handicap would be any lower. You still have to get the ball in the hole. And what you gain in some areas you more than lose in others like tough pin positions, longer courses etc.

 

[Birchy]

Tell you what. I'll organise 5000 people to come and watch you tee off and we will see how well you get on.
Also, I'll have a big fat cheque waiting for you if you can beat 100 other players with the same handicap as you.
And we will see how many times you don't rake the bunkers yourself or repair all your pitch marks, replace divots and count how many rules you inadvertantly break without realising.

The pros have it so easy...

Give me 5000 people i dont know over 20 odd lads i know stood on the patio with a pint in their hand praying for a disaster shot any day of the week

 

[HawkeyeMS]

Very little if any on account of...

You had fresh lush grass to hit off at your range using pro v1's
I don't go to the range that often and I don't see that using a proV1 would benefit that much at the range

had a bloke with you thats got all your yardages and carries your clubs
That's what I have a trolley and GPS for

have 5000 people on your hole to tell you where your ball is
It's not often I lose balls in the rough

have 5000 pepole flattening the rough
This would help a bit

relief from most errant approach shots because of grand stands and tv towers
It's not often my approach shots are that wild

no moorons leaving bunkers with foot prints
I'm rubbish out of bunkers anyway

relief from plugged balls in the rough.
I don't remember the last time I had a plugged ball in the rough