Greenkeepers Cuttings

[stevelev]

Can anybody clarify for me:

Our greens staff have been flailing the grass and not cleared the cuttings. The cuttings have been left in large lines similar to when you bale hay.They have been left at the edge of the 1st cut where it meets the actual rough.

As these are not actually piled at the side of the hole away from the areas usually played do they still class as abnormal ground condition or are they classed as through the green and in play?

Cheers

 

[duncan mackie]

If they are not going to be removed then they are loose impediments - if they ware going to be removed they are GUR.

The committee should make it clear what they are if there's any doubt.

 

[Farneyman]

The cuttings have been left in large lines similar to when you bale hay.

Cheers

I reckon that has to be one of the greatest over exaggerations in the forum history, well apart from the forum distances some people hit :whoo:

 

[stevelev]

Cheers for clarifying. How does it work if my balls goes in it but is buried? Some of the piles are 5inches deep. Be nice to know the procedure as its comp day tomorrow

They will be raked up and removed, but the greens staff for some reason do not rake them at the time of flailing. They flail all round the course, then rake into piles a few days later, then remove the piles after that.

 

[stevelev]

I reckon that has to be one of the greatest over exaggerations in the forum history, well apart from the forum distances some people hit :whoo:

No exaggeration, not the same size, but the way they lie is the same as the grass before it was cut was in excess of a foot long and very thick.

 

[rulefan]

Cheers for clarifying. How does it work if my balls goes in it but is buried?

See
Rule 25-1c Ball in Abnormal Ground Condition Not Found
http://www.usga.org/rules/rules-and-decisions.html#!rule-25

 

[stevelev]

See
Rule 25-1c Ball in Abnormal Ground Condition Not Found
http://www.usga.org/rules/rules-and-decisions.html#!rule-25

I mean if I can find it, sorry. I know I can remove stuff from on top to identify it, but do I need to replace that cuttings, can I remove more,. Do I need to mark my ball

 

[Old Skier]

I mean if I can find it, sorry. I know I can remove stuff from on top to identify it, but do I need to replace that cuttings, can I remove more,. Do I need to mark my ball

Remove and you do what you can WITHOUT moving the ball. Sounds like they need to do a bit more grass cutting.

 

[rulefan]

I mean if I can find it, sorry. I know I can remove stuff from on top to identify it, but do I need to replace that cuttings, can I remove more,. Do I need to mark my ball

As they will be removed the piles are GUR. Simply dig the ball out, don't worry about moving the grass (or the ball). You don't have to mark the ball but it may help to determine the nearest point of relief.
It is just normal GUR relief. Rule 25-1b(i)

 

[Old Skier]

As they will be removed the piles are GUR. Simply dig the ball out, don't worry about moving the grass (or the ball). You don't have to mark the ball but it may help to determine the nearest point of relief.
It is just normal GUR relief. Rule 25-1b(i)

I understood the post to be about grass residue left behind after a cutting session rather than grass being stored to be taken away

 

[duncan mackie]

I understood the post to be about grass residue left behind after a cutting session rather than grass being stored to be taken away

OP clarified in post 4

 

[Old Skier]

OP clarified in post 4

Seen cheers