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Rush job.

So many Critical themes that run through the books just ignored.

Some of the outcomes of the last series don’t make any sense.

Who the bloody heck is actually Azor Ahai?

It was entertaining but felt hollow.

Set up shamelessly for a sequel too.

Tyrion

“Let’s see where we are in 10 years...”

Shame.
 
I liked the ending. It did feel a little anti-climactic at times, but it wasn’t going to end any other way. Dragon had to burn the throne really....he couldn’t have burnt Jon as he is a Targ!

Would have liked the first council meeting to have been a bit longer, but I guess less is more.

Now...let’s start at season 1 and watch it all again!
 
hairball_89 said:
Couldn't have put it better myself. I want to know what Arya finds, and whether Bron finds the money for brothels or ships first!
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Oh come now, I think we all know what Bron is going to build first 😁. He wouldn't be Bron if he didn't. What a role that has been for Jerome Flynn. One of my favourite characters throughout the series.
 
Wabinez said:
I liked the ending. It did feel a little anti-climactic at times, but it wasn’t going to end any other way. Dragon had to burn the throne really....he couldn’t have burnt Jon as he is a Targ!

Would have liked the first council meeting to have been a bit longer, but I guess less is more.

Now...let’s start at season 1 and watch it all again!
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God no. A few highlights on youtube will do.

Series 1-5 amazing tv.
Series 6 still good.
Series 7...hmmm
Series 8 flogging a dead horse.
 
Wabinez said:
I liked the ending. It did feel a little anti-climactic at times, but it wasn’t going to end any other way. Dragon had to burn the throne really....he couldn’t have burnt Jon as he is a Targ!

Would have liked the first council meeting to have been a bit longer, but I guess less is more.

Now...let’s start at season 1 and watch it all again!
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Pretty much sums it up for me. Thought it ended fair and well, thoroughly enjoyed the show.
 
Bazzatron said:
Anyone read the books? Holiday coming up and wondering if they're worth a go.
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Yes, have read all five a few times now. I would definitely recommend getting a companion app though as there are so many characters and plot lines it's difficult to follow sometimes.
The app will let you look at a character depending on which book you're reading and will spell out their story-line and where it pertains to the rest of the books, very useful!

As for the final episode, apart from Jon giving it to Dany... it should have just been re titled to "Epilogue" as that's all it was really and I think it would have been accepted more.

Edit. This is an old page but it still mostly works. It tells you the timeline of each main Char depending on which book you're on. Incredibly useful.
 
TBH i sort of lost interest towards the end of the last series, but have seen the odd bit and thought, how come it took 7 series of slow burn twist and turns only to take a couple of episodes to conclude the story..

i've the same sort of feeling as with "Lost" TBH
 
patricks148 said:
TBH i sort of lost interest towards the end of the last series, but have seen the odd bit and thought, how come it took 7 series of slow burn twist and turns only to take a couple of episodes to conclude the story..

i've the same sort of feeling as with "Lost" TBH
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Funny enough, mate of mine made the exact same comparison yesterday.
 
Bazzatron said:
Anyone read the books? Holiday coming up and wondering if they're worth a go.
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Yes, I think they're awful to be honest but I know amongst my friends and colleagues I'm the minority. The one thing I think they need more than anything is a really severe editing. They are worth trying, I'm not saying you shouldn't give them a go, you should, just be prepared for them being very dense and unnecessarily elaborate.

I might be tempted to read the last book (if it's ever finished) just as an exercise in comparison to the screenplay.

I really enjoyed the TV show on the whole but I've had a consistent opinion that the story as both written and filmed would have been a lot better without the dragons and zombies. They were too extraneous to the real plot being played out of monarchy, war and humanity.

Some beautiful shots and composition in the last episode and I'm glad it left us with some good feelings. The moment the camera dollied away from Tyrion, Bron, Brienne, Davos and Tarly sat around the table could have been a perfect way to end it. A great callback to the beginnings and ultimately a perfect scene on which to show how it was all, ultimately, going full circle with little learned. Another generation set to repeat the mistakes of the past.

I'd be more than happy to follow Arya on her journey of discovery and conquest if that's a spin-off in the waiting. The only difficulty I'd have is that she needed a foil - the loss of the Hound leaves a large void in her appeal for me.

Anyway, the story was full of holes and missed opportunities but I really enjoyed how it drew to a close very much. I'm glad it's over, it's been a landmark in TV and will be difficult to follow but it was a fun rollercoaster to have been on.
 
The books and the TV are meant to be different. Again, it's more whinging from book fan boys when they claim they're different thus bad. If he ever writes the book, expect different endings.
 
Wife told be last night the the story is bases on the "Wars of the Roses" a subject i'm very well read on.... I'm wondering which bits of the WOTR the author got his idea's from :poop::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
Kellfire said:
The books and the TV are meant to be different. Again, it's more whinging from book fan boys when they claim they're different thus bad. If he ever writes the book, expect different endings.
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Not sure that's true. G. Martin explained the main character arcs to the TV show makers and also how they end up. From what I've read the book ending will be similar, just more fleshed out and done better.
 
TheDiablo said:
Why are people so defensive on here when there challenged and just jump straight to 'I'm allowed an opinion so FU'? It leaves so little room for reason and debate which is a shame.

Opinions are fine, but surely on reflection you realise that specific point about the dragon to be pretty strange one? Of all the things the dragons ever did that's the one that's stopped you in your tracks and gone 'not having this, it's naff.'

I've not once claimed it didn't have its faults, far from it - check back the thread if you really want. But it just so happens to also be the last episode and at a time where its incredibly fashionable to have a dig at GoT.
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I'll hold my hands up. I'd been up 28 hours. I probably should have slept before responded. I apologise.

My point was simply that obviously there is lots unrealistic. I just felt that it was cheesey. Not just unrealistic.id have preferred the dragon tried to burn Jon and him be immune too. So then left him alone.

Re it being fashionable. Maybe there is a reason. For that. People have loved the show for 7 seasons. Imo enough people think it's been a poor season. Maybe it's more that some other fans are being too defensive and using that claim as a get out.
 
Papas1982 said:
I'll hold my hands up. I'd been up 28 hours. I probably should have slept before responded. I apologise.

My point was simply that obviously there is lots unrealistic. I just felt that it was cheesey. Not just unrealistic.id have preferred the dragon tried to burn Jon and him be immune too. So then left him alone.

Re it being fashionable. Maybe there is a reason. For that. People have loved the show for 7 seasons. Imo enough people think it's been a poor season. Maybe it's more that some other fans are being too defensive and using that claim as a get out.
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Drogon was furious with Aegon, but you could tell he was torn between his loyalty to Daenerys as his master and Aegon as the last Targaryen and the loyalty that also brings. I read that scene as Drogon's way of saying, "I can't kill you, you're too important and I feel loyalty to you for being a Targaryen, but if Daenerys can't sit on the throne, you won't and no one else can either."

Only he said it with flames.
 
Kellfire said:
Drogon was furious with Aegon, but you could tell he was torn between his loyalty to Daenerys as his master and Aegon as the last Targaryen and the loyalty that also brings. I read that scene as Drogon's way of saying, "I can't kill you, you're too important and I feel loyalty to you for being a Targaryen, but if Daenerys can't sit on the throne, you won't and no one else can either."

Only he said it with flames.
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At that’s a fair interpretation.
I just didn’t see the dragons as having such intellect. Loyal to her and accepting of Jon. But beasts basically. Not deep thinking creatures.

The concept of Drogon understanding the whole saga for me is ott.
 
Papas1982 said:
I'll hold my hands up. I'd been up 28 hours. I probably should have slept before responded. I apologise.

My point was simply that obviously there is lots unrealistic. I just felt that it was cheesey. Not just unrealistic.id have preferred the dragon tried to burn Jon and him be immune too. So then left him alone.

Re it being fashionable. Maybe there is a reason. For that. People have loved the show for 7 seasons. Imo enough people think it's been a poor season. Maybe it's more that some other fans are being too defensive and using that claim as a get out.
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No worries, don't know you personally but seemed a bit of character 👍🏻

Drogon knew Jon was a Targ, hence he let him pass to see Dany in the first place. No point him trying to burn him.

I think there's a legitimate argument that it's been a bit rushed, but I bet the same people would complain if it had been too dragged out! Just human nature to moan about success.

It seems most people seriously complaining are those unhappy about their theories not being played out. They ate themselves up in complexity and overanalysed it, and are now frustrated.

IMO, the speed of the close left a few gaps in the writing, but the cinematography and acting was the best it's ever been, and the story finished with each character having a fairly satisfying and believable end to their individual arc, so overall I'd say its been a successful final series.
 
TheDiablo said:
No worries, don't know you personally but seemed a bit of character 👍🏻

Drogon knew Jon was a Targ, hence he let him pass to see Dany in the first place. No point him trying to burn him.

I think there's a legitimate argument that it's been a bit rushed, but I bet the same people would complain if it had been too dragged out! Just human nature to moan about success.

It seems most people seriously complaining are those unhappy about their theories not being played out. They ate themselves up in complexity and overanalysed it, and are now frustrated.

IMO, the speed of the close left a few gaps in the writing, but the cinematography and acting was the best it's ever been, and the story finished with each character having a fairly satisfying and believable end to their individual arc, so overall I'd say its been a successful final series.
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There may be some truth in that.

Re Drogon not burning Jon. I didn’t think all Targs were fireproof. I thought that was her bit of magic which meant the dragons could be born in the first place?

The cinematography was as good as ever. My main complaints weren’t in regards to the end result. I just felt some many characters having relatively happy endings wasn’t very GOT’s like lol
 
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