Yerman
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GB interview with Piers Morgan talking about the death of his daughter. A touching human interest story or a sick play for sympathy votes. I know what I think.
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drawboy
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PLONKER, no time for the man I think he is simply odious.
pokerjoke
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There is no way that its been done to make him seam human or to try and make him more popular,i can only imagine what it must have been like,to have a child die in your arms can only be the worst ever experience and i hope know one on this site has ever had this nightmare happen too them.If sadly it has my sincerest sympathys to you and your familys.
Parmo
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PLONKER, no time for the man I think he is simply odious.
Yeah and David Cameron will save the world with no policies.
drawboy
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I am not referring to the policies of either politician I am talking about the character of the man. I do not find him in any way likable. However I do agree with the posts above regarding the loss of his child. Terrible, and with that I do sympathise..PLONKER, no time for the man I think he is simply odious.
Yeah and David Cameron will save the world with no policies.
colint
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Wouldn't wish what happened to him on anyone, but it's all part of the election process bringing stuff like that up now, it was a couple of years ago wasn't it ?
Politically, the man is a complete eedjit, even his own party seem to think so. Won't be long now before he can sent to the scrapheap
Politically, the man is a complete eedjit, even his own party seem to think so. Won't be long now before he can sent to the scrapheap
Sneds
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PLONKER, no time for the man I think he is simply odious.
Yeah and David Cameron will save the world with no policies.
I think you'll find plenty of policies here actually.
http://www.conservatives.com/Policy.aspx
As for Gordon Brown, imo he's an incredible intelligent man. I'm certain his job is to be liked, but to run the country. I think it's unfortunate that his tenure has coincided with the recession.
No party would have come out of the recession well x
USER1999
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And you don't think as Chancellor he couldn't see the recession coming. Jeez, people had been forecasting it for years. He is a berk. No one voted for him, and he needs to go. Now.
Sneds
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If people were forecasting it for years, why did it hit everybody so hard (not only the UK) it still came as a shock. Not only that, it was accentuated by the banking crisis. GB is not in charge of managing the banks risk.
You're right that people had been forecasting it, but one guy that was on the FT Money show had been predicting it since 2004. The bubble was always going to burst, but nobody knew when.
He has made mistakes, but I don't believe that the results would have been any different without him. x
Atticus_Finch
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I would rather see him than Cameron as our PM, but I'll never vote Labour again. It's a paradox. (I think)
Parmo
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Now if David Miliband was leader.. I am sure he will be the next Labour leader, wish he had replaced Brown months ago.
Tommo21
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Recessions always come around every now and then, it's easy to say it's coming.
Tommo21
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Why the feck do some people see the good times as related to houses fetching mad prices and interests rates being higher. My mortgage is the lowest it’s ever been and so is both my daughters and not just by a little amount. Lots of the UKs and the worlds problems come from greed. I took out an investment ISA last march, a risk I took based on the market not falling much lower and it’s went up over 25%...........where is the recession in that. When times are allegedly good we pay much more for petrol, more for cars, more for mortgages and more for domestic heating and lighting. I’ve just, only three days ago, changed my father in laws duel fuel deal with British gas and he’s saved 27% on gas and 20% on electricity. Cheaper than before the so called recession.
Some people need to take a real hard look at the situation.
Some people need to take a real hard look at the situation.
Whereditgo
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I am a parent and cannot begin to imagine the grief that the loss of a child would cause, surely it would live with you every day for the rest of your life - any family that has to endure such a loss would get my deepest and sincere sympathy.
BUT.....it was EIGHT years ago...this is plain and simple electioneering and that in my opinion is particularly sick! I don't like the man, I will freely admit, in fact I like him even less than Tony B-Liar that went before him, Brown was Chancellor through all the boom times remember, where were the reserves when the correctly predicted recession came?
I am not convinced Cameron will be any better as an individual, but I do believe he has the best man in British politics as shadow Foreign Secretary - William Hague
BUT.....it was EIGHT years ago...this is plain and simple electioneering and that in my opinion is particularly sick! I don't like the man, I will freely admit, in fact I like him even less than Tony B-Liar that went before him, Brown was Chancellor through all the boom times remember, where were the reserves when the correctly predicted recession came?
I am not convinced Cameron will be any better as an individual, but I do believe he has the best man in British politics as shadow Foreign Secretary - William Hague
Parmo
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Thanks for the laugh...
Sneds
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Who cares about the PMs likability? Surely it's the party policies that people should look at. The PM is simply the spokesman.
If Labour had the policies the Tories have at the moment I would be voting for them in the next general election, regardless of who was 'in charge' x
If Labour had the policies the Tories have at the moment I would be voting for them in the next general election, regardless of who was 'in charge' x
HomerJSimpson
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I agree that the pain of losing a child like that must be huge and something you never truely get over. However in the harsh world of politics it has nothing to do with the way he has poorly led the country and his inablity to govern.
AuburnWarrior
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The loss of a child is a terrible thing - we're all agreed there.
Gordon Brown - I have no time for the man. He's unelected which makes his position somewhat dubious and I find his odious to say the least.
Labour have been in power for over ten years and for the past five they've been warned constantly that the 'bubble' was about to burst and a recession was on the way. Now, every economy has to have recessions - any economist will tell you that but, Labour were warned that this recession would be massive. The unsustainable borrowing that the Labour government allowed to happen without getting the BoE to increase lending rates is scandelous. Allowing people to get mortgages of eight times their salaries is a recipe for disaster.
What I love is that it's now the banks fault that we're in this mess. Brilliant!!! And what does GB do - blame them as well. What a clown!!! When he was head of the treasury he'd phone the leading investment banks weekly to find out what was going on in the markets, etc and, perhaps more importantly, to find out how much tax they were paying. Why didn't he ask them then to stop their 'dubious' trading? He's never going to bite the hand that feeds him. The investment banking sector is one of the highest tax payers in the country. Goldman Sachs, Lehmans, etc are/were in the top ten of tax payers in the country.
Will it matter who's in power??? Not really. They're all as bad as each other - arrogant, selfish knobs but what's the alternative??? Kim Jon Il??? I'll stick to GB...
Gordon Brown - I have no time for the man. He's unelected which makes his position somewhat dubious and I find his odious to say the least.
Labour have been in power for over ten years and for the past five they've been warned constantly that the 'bubble' was about to burst and a recession was on the way. Now, every economy has to have recessions - any economist will tell you that but, Labour were warned that this recession would be massive. The unsustainable borrowing that the Labour government allowed to happen without getting the BoE to increase lending rates is scandelous. Allowing people to get mortgages of eight times their salaries is a recipe for disaster.
What I love is that it's now the banks fault that we're in this mess. Brilliant!!! And what does GB do - blame them as well. What a clown!!! When he was head of the treasury he'd phone the leading investment banks weekly to find out what was going on in the markets, etc and, perhaps more importantly, to find out how much tax they were paying. Why didn't he ask them then to stop their 'dubious' trading? He's never going to bite the hand that feeds him. The investment banking sector is one of the highest tax payers in the country. Goldman Sachs, Lehmans, etc are/were in the top ten of tax payers in the country.
Will it matter who's in power??? Not really. They're all as bad as each other - arrogant, selfish knobs but what's the alternative??? Kim Jon Il??? I'll stick to GB...
Sneds
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I'm sorry I do not understand why this is the fault of the labour government? The banking crisis came about because of sub-prime lending which was predominately in USA, not over here.
And with regards to the Corporate Governance issue with banks like Northern Rock having a risky strategy, well that is predominately the responsibility of the Financial Services Authority. The FSA actually recognised NR was high risk, but they actually presumed that the BoE would bail them out, and when the BoE refused, well that was that!
I'll say it again, it wouldn't have matter what party was in power, they couldn't have prevented the banking crisis.
haplesshacker
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It's a sad fact that many do vote as if it were a reality show programme, ie. for the 'popular' candidate. Tony Blair knew this better than anyone. Personally I might think that the best local MP may not be from the same party that I would put my vote to as PM and to run the country. This is were the system in this country falls down.
I didn't like Tony Benn's politics, but I respected his views, even though I didn't agree with him. He was one of a few. There have been many that I think should have been PM or at least had a decent chance as opposition leader. Tony Benn being one, William Hague and old Ken Clark being others.
We're agreed about GB's terrible tragedy. As a parent with very young children, I can't imagine what his family went through. But I'm afraid that the whole Peirs Morgan thing is as staged as 'Cats'! Why else do it at this time, particularly as the election looks likely to be on the 6th May.
It's noticable that no-one has mentioned the 'other' party!
I didn't like Tony Benn's politics, but I respected his views, even though I didn't agree with him. He was one of a few. There have been many that I think should have been PM or at least had a decent chance as opposition leader. Tony Benn being one, William Hague and old Ken Clark being others.
We're agreed about GB's terrible tragedy. As a parent with very young children, I can't imagine what his family went through. But I'm afraid that the whole Peirs Morgan thing is as staged as 'Cats'! Why else do it at this time, particularly as the election looks likely to be on the 6th May.
It's noticable that no-one has mentioned the 'other' party!
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