Friday 31st January 2020

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Very easily, you go to work pay your taxes and see what happens. You don't need to do anything different to that you already do each day. Its down to the government to deliver now. If nothing changes or things get worse then when the next vote comes round we as voters again get to have our say. I wanted to remain but the majority voted leave so therefore we democratically respect the result and move on together. Continuing to throw our toys out of yhe pram because we didn't get what we wanted doesn't help anyone or help with positive change. You can either moan about how others choices mean you can't have what you want or you can take control of your own situations and drive yourself forward for the better.. I know my choice..

So if I continue as normal - and that is how I get behind the government to make the best out of a bad job - so then how would I NOT get behind the government - chuck my job? And what difference would that make - none whatsoever.

BTW - I am not continuing to throw my toys out of the pram - we are leaving - and that's that - I accept that - but I remain completely p'd off at the stupidity of what the country is doing and how it might affect my family, friends and country. But on a daily basis I can put that aside and just get on with life, but don't anyone ever think that that is me getting behind the government and us leaving the EU. And that will not change until I see the unicorns come a-galloping over the horizon...and then it will.
 
So if I continue as normal - and that is how I get behind the government to make the best out of a bad job - so then how would I NOT get behind the government - chuck my job? And what difference would that make - none whatsoever.

BTW - I am not continuing to throw my toys out of the pram - we are leaving - and that's that - I accept that - but I remain completely p'd off at the stupidity of what the country is doing and how it might affect my family, friends and country. But on a daily basis I can put that aside and just get on with life, but don't anyone ever think that that is me getting behind the government and us leaving the EU. And that will not change until I see the unicorns come a-galloping over the horizon...and then it will.
You do like to completely miss or just disregard a point in order to make yours seem more important on these subjects don't you ?

The point is exactly what you highlighted, you don't need to do anything different, get uo go to work and pay your taxes the rest as always is down to the elected government, you dont have to like it but by default you have to accept it because its been democratically voted for. Did i say you have to get behind the government? NO, your twisting words to suit your views as always.

Btw the petty comment of unicorns galloping over the horizon is essentially a toys out of the pram comment. Because you'd rather continue to bemoan the situation with child like comments than accept that in 9 days time we won't be in the EU..

Like you i wanted to remain, I didn't get my way but until the deals are done we don't factually know if our families will be worse off its only something we can think. You, I or anyone have a choice to continue to be annoyed at people for choosing this option and continuing down a negative path with a poor woe is us mindset waiting for it to fail and then blaming the government and leave voters for all is wrong in yours or your families lifes, or you and your family can grab opportunity by the balls and decide to not roll over and wait but instead focus your energy on building your own futures and accept responsibility for your outcomes.. Again I know which path i choose...
 
You do like to completely miss or just disregard a point in order to make yours seem more important on these subjects don't you ?

The point is exactly what you highlighted, you don't need to do anything different, get uo go to work and pay your taxes the rest as always is down to the elected government, you dont have to like it but by default you have to accept it because its been democratically voted for. Did i say you have to get behind the government? NO, your twisting words to suit your views as always.

Btw the petty comment of unicorns galloping over the horizon is essentially a toys out of the pram comment. Because you'd rather continue to bemoan the situation with child like comments than accept that in 9 days time we won't be in the EU..

Like you i wanted to remain, I didn't get my way but until the deals are done we don't factually know if our families will be worse off its only something we can think. You, I or anyone have a choice to continue to be annoyed at people for choosing this option and continuing down a negative path with a poor woe is us mindset waiting for it to fail and then blaming the government and leave voters for all is wrong in yours or your families lifes, or you and your family can grab opportunity by the balls and decide to not roll over and wait but instead focus your energy on building your own futures and accept responsibility for your outcomes.. Again I know which path i choose...

The point is - I asked what I had to do to get behind the government and Leaving the EU - as I am being exhorted to do. All I can do is keep on keeping on.

On unicorns? OK then - what I see as fantasy outcomes that some who voted to Leave are expecting.

And I am not annoyed at any of the electorate who voted to Leave. If I am annoyed at anyone it is with those who have painted the picture of the EU causing so many of the problems we have in the UK, and the rosy picture that is life after the EU - aspects of the former being untrue and of the latter I fear being undeliverable.

My son is self-employed in the music and events industry, and has done a lot of ad-hoc travelling across the EU with his business/bands - playing his music and sellig his merchandising - and that will quite probably be significantly more problematic and costly for him going forward. Brexit has limited his business horizons not widened them.

My Brother-in-Law teaches English as a Foreign Language. He has been trying for many months to get a position in the EU27 - but no-one is interested in hiring a Brit these days due to work permit requirements etc. The schools can hire Irish teachers instead - plenty of them about. Brexit has limited his business horizons not widened them.

So onwards up upwards?

And so on Friday 31st January - no celebrations by me - but prayers for the future of our country.
 
So if I continue as normal - and that is how I get behind the government to make the best out of a bad job - so then how would I NOT get behind the government - chuck my job? And what difference would that make - none whatsoever.

BTW - I am not continuing to throw my toys out of the pram - we are leaving - and that's that - I accept that - but I remain completely p'd off at the stupidity of what the country is doing and how it might affect my family, friends and country. But on a daily basis I can put that aside and just get on with life, but don't anyone ever think that that is me getting behind the government and us leaving the EU. And that will not change until I see the unicorns come a-galloping over the horizon...and then it will.
Can't you just give it a rest? You are like a spoilt brat on every political thread.
 
I aim to be playing golf the following morning so obviously I will be doing:

1 hours weight training
1 hours pilates
1 hours putting practice
1 hours wedge practice
20 minutes cleaning my gear

OR

Walk the dog, fun Friday night tea, glass of wine, cup of tea and a bit of chocolate. In effect nothing unusual.

I see this date as more theoretical than practical. The real leaving date is when we exit the transitional period.
 
So if I continue as normal - and that is how I get behind the government to make the best out of a bad job - so then how would I NOT get behind the government - chuck my job? And what difference would that make - none whatsoever.

BTW - I am not continuing to throw my toys out of the pram - we are leaving - and that's that - I accept that - but I remain completely p'd off at the stupidity of what the country is doing and how it might affect my family, friends and country. But on a daily basis I can put that aside and just get on with life, but don't anyone ever think that that is me getting behind the government and us leaving the EU. And that will not change until I see the unicorns come a-galloping over the horizon...and then it will.

The highlighted bit. You haven't put it aside one little jot. You've been an absolute pain in the for over 3 years about it. You've barely accepted a single point raised by anyone. You've name called and slagged off over it. You're dangerously blinkered and obsessed by it.
 
The point is - I asked what I had to do to get behind the government and Leaving the EU - as I am being exhorted to do. All I can do is keep on keeping on.

On unicorns? OK then - what I see as fantasy outcomes that some who voted to Leave are expecting.

And I am not annoyed at any of the electorate who voted to Leave. If I am annoyed at anyone it is with those who have painted the picture of the EU causing so many of the problems we have in the UK, and the rosy picture that is life after the EU - aspects of the former being untrue and of the latter I fear being undeliverable.

My son is self-employed in the music and events industry, and has done a lot of ad-hoc travelling across the EU with his business/bands - playing his music and sellig his merchandising - and that will quite probably be significantly more problematic and costly for him going forward. Brexit has limited his business horizons not widened them.

My Brother-in-Law teaches English as a Foreign Language. He has been trying for many months to get a position in the EU27 - but no-one is interested in hiring a Brit these days due to work permit requirements etc. The schools can hire Irish teachers instead - plenty of them about. Brexit has limited his business horizons not widened them.

So onwards up upwards?

And so on Friday 31st January - no celebrations by me - but prayers for the future of our country.
As I said you have a woe is me attitude about everything political and come across as nothing more than a child who didn't get his way.. As per Bob's previous post let's keep this thread on track..

31st January will be in the gym, home to bed and ignore the waffle...
 
I started the year hoping to complete both vegan and dry January... Sadly that morphed into veggie (with the occasional bit of oily fish) January... Still dry though ?...
Currently planning on a Barnsley chop with a Guinness to complete the month... Might be tempted to stay dry in February though...
 
No really sure why there's any reason to do something that day?

On Friday night, 31st Jan , I'll go to bed as usual and (God willing) get up on 1st Feb. And, excepting (for the time being) a meaningless technicality, naff all will have changed when I get up. I'll still have the same passport for the next 9 years 11 months; I'll still gave to queue to get across a border; business will still have a shed load of paperwork to deal with; immigrants, both legal and illegal will still arrive here; I'll still be able to eat Spanish tomatoes, French cheese and Lincolnshire sausages, and the green keepers will still be stuffed as to what chemicals they can use on the course. Feb 1st is just another day to crack on with life.

To partly answers Bob's question, given that I live in London, one of the heartlands of the remain vote, I cant really see there'll be that much demand or support for clubs/pubs/bars to do anything particular?
 
I'll have a glass or two and a toast to the future and hope a stable Government achieves half of what is reported

I'll be glad we did not elect Corbyn because of the damage that would have been inflicted on the UK and our international relations.

I'd hope the SNP does not continue the abuse of its power but sets out policies to benefit Scots and gets alongside the Government in its attempts to 'woe' with investment in Scotland and the whole of the 'North' rather than whinge constantly about a referendum and enhance not reduce the chances of risk to investors.
 
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