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In my job I have to deal with counterparts from European Member States and European Commission officials on more or less a daily basis - as such - from my experiences - I'll be voting out!!
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
At the moment the YES folk just need to sit and twiddle their thumbs as the NO folk and their meeja are making a great job of recruiting more new members to the SNP.
The EU vote seems to be a total shambles ATM.
As Hogan says, Cameron thinks that 'whatever......... it will be a stroll for the keepyinners'.
Short memories.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Coincidence that the forum poll is running at almost exactly the same as the Scottish referendum result and at what the polls were saying on the run up to the vote. And then there came the one and only YES majority poll and the Westminster panic button was hit big time. Surely history cannot repeat itself.
Foxholer
Blackballed
Do you think there should be a 3rd option - for the current 'Out' folk....Stay in provided sufficient concessions are made by EU! ? That would likely be in the Immigration/Benefits area.
Not that I believe they will actually achieve what DC is asking for! And, of course, he hasn't published what he is asking for either (I wonder why!!!)!
Not that I believe they will actually achieve what DC is asking for! And, of course, he hasn't published what he is asking for either (I wonder why!!!)!
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
I did enjoy listening to the Hungarian PM putting Cameron back in his box yesterday.
Basically saying that nearly all of the Hungarian workers in the UK were hard working taxpayers and were entitled [under EU law] to get the same benefits as other tax paying UK workers.
Basically saying that nearly all of the Hungarian workers in the UK were hard working taxpayers and were entitled [under EU law] to get the same benefits as other tax paying UK workers.
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So...tomorrow is the big day so thought I would bump this one up for anyone that didn't see it to get a forum straw poll.
CheltenhamHacker
Journeyman Pro
55/45 In/Leave at the mo... wouldn't be surprised if that's accurate.
I'd be interested if there is anyone who has changed their mind as a result of GM discussions.
I'd be interested if there is anyone who has changed their mind as a result of GM discussions.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
Kind of the opposite to me, strengthened my resolve to vote in from reading some of the arguments of the outers.
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Very similar to our poll then, maybe Mori and YouGov should come to us in future
MegaSteve
Tour Winner
Looking to be wet tomorrow so most probably won't be asked to go and vote if it means digging out the brolly...
Can't/won't vote remain as I would be supporting 'big business'... Never gonna happen... As for the experts... If most of them ever actually lifted their heads from their text books and did a proper days work they'd never recover from it... Plus several leading remainers have used such language as "lazy British worker"... Which I simply can't handle...
Still though, finding it difficult to come to terms with being on same platform as two the most odious people in politics today... Even though I favour leave reckon I'll be staying indoors and dry...
Can't/won't vote remain as I would be supporting 'big business'... Never gonna happen... As for the experts... If most of them ever actually lifted their heads from their text books and did a proper days work they'd never recover from it... Plus several leading remainers have used such language as "lazy British worker"... Which I simply can't handle...
Still though, finding it difficult to come to terms with being on same platform as two the most odious people in politics today... Even though I favour leave reckon I'll be staying indoors and dry...
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Kind of the opposite to me, strengthened my resolve to vote in from reading some of the arguments of the outers.
I've had my resolve to vote remain strengthened for the same reason, I have found the Leave arguments dispiriting, disingenuous, divisive and as for the downright lies...! Even when they know they have a lie on their Battle Bus - they deny it and wriggle around it. Seems that for Leave - if it sounds true, then that's good enough.
CheltenhamHacker
Journeyman Pro
Very similar to our poll then, maybe Mori and YouGov should come to us in future
I was referring to the GM vote (as it was when I looked). If it is accurate afterwards though, then GM could make some money on future referendums
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I changed from out to in over the period of the debate
Lots of the stuff that has happened had appalled me and disappointed me
Lots of the stuff that has happened had appalled me and disappointed me
Crazyface
Tour Winner
It has come from both sides, so why change your view point because of this? It should be based on how you feel about what you have learnt.
Crazyface
Tour Winner
It is not a lie. It is true. but you cannot fit
"we give them 350 million pounds and they give us 84 million back in a rebate oh and we also get other money back to so that makes it er er about 160 million, yeah that's it about £160 million that we actually give the EU every week"
On the side of a bus !!!!
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I didn't say i changed because of the way they acted ?
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
So why didn't they just say 'the EU costs us £160 million a week' then on the bus?
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I imagine that they have wordsmiths on the campaign who could put it more succinctly!
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
harpo_72
Journeyman Pro
all good facts ... Shame the vote stay campaign was negative. If they told us what we have I think people may have understood.
i am worried that the leave campaign wins, I will have to immigrate to get a job and maintain my family.
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