Envy or jealousy ?

[Deleted member 16999]

Thing's like this don't help.

https://twitter.com/Digbylj/status/1015567390116073478

What an utter fool, BTW Nicola did wish England well, a fact that seemed to by pass the dishonourable Lord.

Begs the question, why to England football fans crave the support of the other home nation countries.

Oh and whilst I am at it England borrowing the British national anthem as they do not have one of their own is a bit lazy/arrogant.

Good to see the England fans have finally stopped wearing/waving Union flag stuff though

Nor do posts like this help:

We don’t crave your support, infact don’t care.

We haven’t borrowed the National Anthem it is the National Anthem of the UK which we are proud to be part of and unlike yourselves and the Welsh don’t see a need for a seperate one.

Again the Flag is something we are proud of, it contains the St Georges Cross and have no bitterness towards using it.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I guess not all English Hooligans are white or male!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Nor do posts like this help:

We don’t crave your support, infact don’t care.

We haven’t borrowed the National Anthem it is the National Anthem of the UK which we are proud to be part of and unlike yourselves and the Welsh don’t see a need for a seperate one.

Again the Flag is something we are proud of, it contains the St Georges Cross and have no bitterness towards using it.

But the UK are not playing at the World Cup...…..England are.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

But the UK are not playing at the World Cup...…..England are.

And it only seems a problem for a few Scotsmen. :thup:

 

[Doon frae Troon]

And it only seems a problem for a few Scotsmen. :thup:

I do not understand your reply.
What has it to do with the Scots.
It is not a British [united] team playing in Russia it is England.
Fans singing Rule Britania and GSTQ seems like a very strange choice..

 

[Don Barzini]

Imagine what it would have been like if England had lost....

If you're truly concerned by that, you should be hoping we win in future then!

Begs the question, why to England football fans crave the support of the other home nation countries.

As others have said, we don't crave it - we're just a bit confused by the passionate support of ABE by a section of Scottish folk. Especially since we don't support ABS in return. Many of us (myself included) have and would cheer on the other home nations at football and other sports.

I asked the question early on in this thread about why it happens by the Scots. I've heard nothing here so far which is anything more than an excuse for some other underlying inherent dislike tbh.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

I do not understand your reply.
What has it to do with the Scots.
It is not a British [united] team playing in Russia it is England.
Fans singing Rule Britania and GSTQ seems like a very strange choice..

Who’s brought the subject up?
I’ve not seen one Englishman complain or have an issue,
What was played for the Scottish team last time they were at the World Cup finals.
Our National Anthem is also the UK National Anthem just like the other 15+ Commonwealth countries.

 

[User20205]

This is probably one of the worst threads I can ever remember on GM. Arguing about who the Scottish should support?? Really. Who cares?
In other news....drunk people act like dicks....shocker. There must be some that start early on here.

 

[User20205]

'We' don't "crave" your support, at all, in any shape or form...
Could do without your wishes of malevolence though...

However, one of my secret pleasures is hearing the metaphorical thunderclap, of chins hitting chests, of Team ABE :thup:...

This doesn’t work. You can’t hear a metaphorical thunderclap. Can a chin even make a thunderclap???
You can metaphorically hear a metaphorical thunderclap, but then that’s all in your head, which means you’re mental

 

[IanM]

Fans singing Rule Britania and GSTQ seems like a very strange choice..

England fans in "singing their National Anthem" shocker! :whoo:

 

[tugglesf239]

This threads cringeworthy. Ha ha

I’m a Scotsman. Live in England and my children are half English.

The only reason that I don’t want England to win a peep, is because they will never shut up about it. Ever, ever again

The English are not the worst for hooliganisim. That’s a farce.

What they are though are the most irritating nation on Earth when it comes to bragging about past glories. 😉

Worse still are the TV pundit lot that were actually discussing putting a new statue outside Wembley during the win over the swedes 😂😂😂😂

The presumption levels on the telly far outweighs the realistic thoughts of your average England fan it’s comical.

I hope the England team do well as it’s nice that the country has somthing to cheer about. the lads in the team seem a decent bunch and honestly Gareth Southgate deserves a redemption.

After all the way that ‘you lot’ treated him after the missed Pen was pretty appalling.

Bet he’s loving this at the mo.😁

So I hope you do ok. I hope everyone has a good time.

Then I hope you get dumped out ASAP

Because I can’t listen to this for the rest of my adult life. Dear god the thought of it sends shivers down my spine. 😂

 

[Don Barzini]

After all the way that ‘you lot’ treated him after the missed Pen was pretty appalling.

Out of interest, how did "us lot" treat him after the missed pen?

I certainly don't remember him coming in for much backlash and vitriol. He got a gig doing a Pizza Hut advert on the back of it as well.

 

[User62651]

I guess not all English Hooligans are white or male!

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Rita Ora should know better!:smirk:

 

[MegaSteve]

... which means you’re mental

Can't think of any good reasons to disagree with that ...

 

[Deleted member 16999]

This threads cringeworthy. Ha ha

I’m a Scotsman. Live in England and my children are half English.

The only reason that I don’t want England to win a peep, is because they will never shut up about it. Ever, ever again

The English are not the worst for hooliganisim. That’s a farce.

What they are though are the most irritating nation on Earth when it comes to bragging about past glories. 😉

Worse still are the TV pundit lot that were actually discussing putting a new statue outside Wembley during the win over the swedes 😂😂😂😂

The presumption levels on the telly far outweighs the realistic thoughts of your average England fan it’s comical.

I hope the England team do well as it’s nice that the country has somthing to cheer about. the lads in the team seem a decent bunch and honestly Gareth Southgate deserves a redemption.

After all the way that ‘you lot’ treated him after the missed Pen was pretty appalling.

Bet he’s loving this at the mo.😁

So I hope you do ok. I hope everyone has a good time.

Then I hope you get dumped out ASAP

Because I can’t listen to this for the rest of my adult life. Dear god the thought of it sends shivers down my spine. 😂

I wish you’d of posted this straight after Cabby’s opening post, it would of saved a lot heads being banged against a wall. Cheers.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Out of interest, how did "us lot" treat him after the missed pen?

I certainly don't remember him coming in for much backlash and vitriol. He got a gig doing a Pizza Hut advert on the back of it as well.

Mate, let’s be honest, he did get some stick from some people, even Henderson was getting stick the other night when we won, idiots of all nationalities come out the woodwork at times.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Many? Perhaps...
Too many? One is too many...

MAJORITY? Sorry, not having that at all...

Have you seen footage from Marseilles when England were there in 1998, Germany, and many many other occasions.

Literally, thousands rioting and for large parts of the day. Lets face it they even used to fight with each other as rival firms used to fight with each other on "England duty".

 

[Robster59]

In reply to the original post, and some of the other posters on this thread, I'm now strongly leaning towards envy and jealousy as well as resentment.
A lot of these posters would be delighted to see England fail and would be the first to whoop and cheer if we had got knocked out at the group stage.
But it's not just International. I remember seeing Liverpool fans cheer when Man United got beaten in a European game. I was gobsmacked but not being an out and out football fan, maybe I don't understand.
For me I'd support any British team. OK I'm a Rugby League fan and given the way my team is playing at the moment most are better than us but I'd still (just, I admit) support one of the others in the World Club challenge vs an Aussie team.

 

[tugglesf239]

Out of interest, how did "us lot" treat him after the missed pen?

I certainly don't remember him coming in for much backlash and vitriol. He got a gig doing a Pizza Hut advert on the back of it as well.

I think I put enough winks and smileys in my post to Indicate that there was some friendly ribbing going on pal.

Don’t be so sensitive. Typical of you lot that...

Just you enjoy the football, cheer on the lads and then work out your next national scapegoat. 😉

I hear David Batty and Chris Waddle are available.

 

[MegaSteve]

Have you seen footage from Marseilles when England were there in 1998, Germany, and many many other occasions.

Literally, thousands rioting and for large parts of the day. Lets face it they even used to fight with each other as rival firms used to fight with each other on "England duty".

And, you have to temper that with the many other occasions there wasn't any...