England Summer Test Series

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Tongo said:
Gubbins or Rory Burns would be viable alternatives.

I dont see what the issue is with Hildreth being 33. England need some middle-order stability and he could fit the bill for the next couple of years.
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Jennings has scored well as has Burns and along with Gubbins they should hopefully form the future partnership .

I’m fully in agreement about Hildreth

But still the big issue as well is Root as skipper
 
33 isn't too old for an established player but I can't see the point of introducing a player at that age.

Hardly building for the future.
 
MetalMickie said:
33 isn't too old for an established player but I can't see the point of introducing a player at that age.

Hardly building for the future.
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Indeed which is what I'd like to see us do. I'd love to see a big overhaul and get a young and hungry central squad in and give them the next two-three years to learn how to play test cricket in different conditions and not simply chop and change as soon as any one payer has a poor game or two. It seems that too many that come into the side these days have the proverbial sword of Damocles over them and are so scared of failing and being dropped they are never allowed to fully express themselves and perform to their true potential
 
Interesting listening to Alan Donald tonight on Sky. He said he has seen seen some talent this year, is it Henry fro Kent?
IMO it’s a huge risk dropping one of those 2. There are consistent performers and whilst the top order is unstable, you don5 want to rock 2 boats just yet.
Hildreth has been banging on the door for a while now and deserves a shot instead on Malan.
If the ball is hooping around early doors I worry about Jennings!
 
Henry from Kent is a Kiwi and their overseas player I believe. England badly need a left armer . I thought Mark Footitt was going to be the man but his move to SUrrey seems to have set him back big style. Maybe now he's out of there he might get back to where he was ?
 
Well that’s a better day , some superb bowling from England especially Broads first spell and then Anderson after lunch

England have made a nice solid start , Jennings and Cook made a good start and Root playing sensibly so far - hopefully a nice lead tomorrow
 
Fair play to Broad for his comments about Vaughan.

Vaughan is Boycott for the clickbait generation when it comes to punditry, loves the sound of his own voice and spouts guff on an almost daily basis.
 
Solid day from England and building a decent enough lead. Couple of fine shots from Curran at the end and I hope he can survive the first few overs tomorrow and make a decent score. The ball seemed to do a bit and that should give the England bowlers encouragement
 
Tongo said:
Fair play to Broad for his comments about Vaughan.

Vaughan is Boycott for the clickbait generation when it comes to punditry, loves the sound of his own voice and spouts guff on an almost daily basis.
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He said what had to be said IMO, some English bowlers have been in cruise mode for some time and needed a kick up the backside.
 
Just as I was about to say Ball should play for Curran, he gets a wicket..... anybody seen Coad from Yorkshire? He has a few wickets this year. In my head I am also thinking are Ball and Broad too similar?!?
I can see Currans appeal with him being a leftie, but I also honk he need to bowl with a newer ball (as he does for Surrey) if you are going to utilise this...
I also think Moeen has been harshly done by and deserves a place above Bess who has potential, but Moeen (their s Winter aside) has been very good...
 
A far better performance but it's the same old story. Play well one game and then have a disaster next. We need to find a way to a level of consistency and stay in games. Reasonable performance by Bess and Curran but will they stay part of the scene or like so many others before, in for a couple of games and then left out and forgotten
 
Being slightly cynical Vaughan's comments got him plenty of column inches and noise. It made him stand out amongst the other cricket pundits. In this modern era of social media that was job done.

I'm not a fan of his but I also find Broad infuriating as he frequently will bowl too short throughout an innings and effectively be of no use to the team. He will then follow that with a great display. How can a pro of his skill and experience still have to be carried so frequently?

Anyway, the rot has stopped and we now have a bizarre sequence of one day matches where test matches should really be.
 
Lots of the pundits are clickbait these days. I don't mind them saying what they think but I think they have quickly forgotton how the media used to prey on them when they were players. Botham, Willis, Vaughn, Boycott are terrible for it. However, Atherton, Hussain Butcher, Gower and Rob Key are really good.

It's a shame Pakistan folded. Didn't really show any fight or application like at Lords. Especially the way they got out to Bess in the 2nd innings.

I think this team is a long way from the finished article. Butler has played really well , although im sure the knives would have been sharpened had he been caught when on 4. It's the top order not pushing on which is again the big worry.

Loads of ODI's now, shame the next test isn't until August.
 
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Good old England selectors once again not having the Balls to be brave

Going back to Ali , bringing in Rashid who doesn’t play Red ball cricket

And ignoring once again the clearly in form Hildreath and both Bess and Leach not picked

Maybe they should move county because I suspect the selectors can’t get to Somerset

The continual ignoring of players not based at the highligh counties is a disgrace
 
No surprise about Leach as he's returning from injury and only bowled 30 odd overs since May. The conundrum is Bess, who really did nothing wrong in the last series , but, he's not exactly set the world on fire in Country Cricket. However, Rashid hasn't even played county cricket.

Pleased for Porter. I hope he gets the nod above Curran as I think he's a better bowler and Broad is struggling with injury still.

Ali is the safe bet to start........ He was man of the series against a strong SA side last Summer, he just had a poor tour of OZ and NZ.
 
It makes a complete mockery of the County game when England call up a player who doesn’t even have a red ball contract and has not bowled a single over of red ball cricket over the past 12 months - it’s a right kick in the guts for guys who are out there bowling week in week out - it’s a joke.

They cite both Bess and Leach not bowling a great amount of overs since May - well maybe that’s because the T20 started up so the county champ games have been thin on the ground and they have both bowled a damn sight more red ball than Rashid -

And that’s before overlooking Hildreath once again

Clearly play for the wrong County
 
The Indians will muller Rashid! No consistency or accuracy. They have papped their pants athe he Indian wrist spinners and thought we have to have one. Watch them attack Rashid.

Do you think Hildreth is harshly done by because he bats on the riad at Taunton?!? I think personally he deserves a chance. I do not think Malan has what it takes. Glad they have picked Jennings as he is in form.
 
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