Eddie Mair Joining LBC

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The reason he is leaving BBC (significant cut in his remuneration) aside - maybe those who dismiss LBC as 'rant radio' might consider why Eddie Mair is joining LBC. Could it even be that Mair recognises that LBC has become a significant and important forum for informed political and social debate - with contributions from many informed experts as well as informed and less than fully informed callers.

If you don't do LBC at the moment - try a bit of Nick Ferrari in the morning and Iain Dale from 4pm for one side of the Brexit argument and other political debate; James O'Brien and Shelagh Fogarty for another. O'Brien is 'executioner in chief' of uniformed Leavers; Fogarty is particularly expert and knowledgeable on social and health matters.

And then there is Farage...Monday-Thursday 7pm-8pm. Oh lawdy lawd!
 
Do we have to get past the remuneration aspect? I suspect he is getting a healthy wedge following a likely cut, as many male R4 presenters have had to take in recent times.

A respected journalist and a good coup for LBC.
 
I listen to LBC occasionally. I prefer some presenters to others. Can't bear Farage, full of it and the king of deflection whenever he is challenged. I remember O'Brien making mincemeat out of him a while back.

I'm a bit left/right/centre depending on the subject so don't really dislike any of the others. Ferrari talks a bit of guff and his views on the recent Alfie Evans case were disappointing as he clearly hadn't familiarised himself with the court transcripts. Either that or he chose to ignore them to be controversial.
 
I've just looked up the latest from LBC.......

[h=1]Cosmetic Surgery Should Not Be Advertised On Love Island Says Surgeon[/h]
[h=1]Nick Ferrari: School Skirt Row Is Because We Haven't Had A 'Damn Good War'[/h]
So now I'm better informed, where's my blunt stick
 
bobmac said:
I've just looked up the latest from LBC.......

[h=1]Cosmetic Surgery Should Not Be Advertised On Love Island Says Surgeon[/h]
[h=1]Nick Ferrari: School Skirt Row Is Because We Haven't Had A 'Damn Good War'[/h]
So now I'm better informed, where's my blunt stick
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Ok - so Ferrari covers items that are in the news and papers that morning. And if you didn't listen you have absolutely no idea of the nature of the discussions - which were actually serious - using these stories as the spring-board.

Indeed the school skirt row comes well reported across the press his morning - with the Sun and The Mail expressing fury and pulling in transgenders - not really looking at the full background; the issues, and indeed whether or not the change in uniform policy actually mattered. Which is what Ferrari did and what O'Brien has subsequently covered.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Do we have to get past the remuneration aspect? I suspect he is getting a healthy wedge following a likely cut, as many male R4 presenters have had to take in recent times.

A respected journalist and a good coup for LBC.
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He is one of the best journalists and broadcasters the BBC have/had - and his remuneration almost pales into insignificance against that of that GIANT of broadcasting Jeremy Vine (LOL).
 
Yep more of your drivel. How come in your opening post you only refer to uninformed leavers but not uninformed remainers?

Oh hang on......could that be because all remainers know all the facts and have a crystal ball?
 
DaveR said:
Yep more of your drivel. How come in your opening post you only refer to uninformed leavers but not uninformed remainers?

Oh hang on......could that be because all remainers know all the facts and have a crystal ball?
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That was quite deliberate because I was talking about James O'Brien.

O'Brien's main thing (with him being a very strong supporter of Remain and advocate of Brexit being an insane thing to do - is to quiz Leave supporters who come on and make claims about Leaving and the EU. He tries to deal in FACTS and not opinion about what might be - and so he interrogates callers on the FACTS that they use to support their arguments.

There are in fact very few FACTS about the benefits of life outside of the EU - because we ain't yet out of the EU. Plenty of aspirations but not many facts. There are of course some facts about life outside of the EU - such as UK can be a member of the WTO - that is a highly likely FACT - but is not a FACT yet. Lot's of other stuff that might become fact but most are based upon assumptions of what a Deal or No Deal might be. O'Brien simply looks at the FACTS that leavers use.

Ferrari and Iain Dale do similar but from the Brexit supporting perspective. Iain Dale is I think particularly good.

And if you really want to hear a LBC presenter pushing the Leave agenda and trying to undermine Remain callers - just listen to Farage.

Oh I so appreciate my comments being referred to as drivel - when in fact in my OP I was commenting on the stance of a few LBC presenters - their stance being widely understood and acknowledge - so not really my opinion.
 
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Firstly, I have no interest in cosmetic surgery or love island.
Secondly, I have no time for someone who wants a war to fix a school uniform problem

"We need a damn good war to sort this out."
Lastly, why would I give a dam what Farage wants to say.

Just because you like listening to that stuff, doesn't mean everyone should and it would appear that over 63 million people in Britain agree with me.

Each to their own
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
That was quite deliberate because I was talking about James O'Brien.

O'Brien's main thing (with him being a very strong supporter of Remain and advocate of Brexit being an insane thing to do - is to quiz Leave supporters who come on and make claims about Leaving and the EU. He tries to deal in FACTS and not opinion about what might be - and so he interrogates callers on the FACTS that they use to support their arguments.

There are in fact very few FACTS about the benefits of life outside of the EU - because we ain't yet out of the EU. Plenty of aspirations but not many facts. There are of course some facts about life outside of the EU - such as UK can be a member of the WTO - that is a highly likely FACT - but is not a FACT yet. Lot's of other stuff that might become fact but most are based upon assumptions of what a Deal or No Deal might be. O'Brien simply looks at the FACTS that leavers use.

Ferrari and Iain Dale do similar but from the Brexit supporting perspective. Iain Dale is I think particularly good.

And if you really want to hear a LBC presenter pushing the Leave agenda and trying to undermine Remain callers - just listen to Farage.

Oh I so appreciate my comments being referred to as drivel - when in fact in my OP I was commenting on the stance of a few LBC presenters - their stance being widely understood and acknowledge - so not really my opinion.
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Nice reply but give me one FACT about remaining in the EU.

How stable and successful is the EU going to be? FACTS please not your opinion because all you do is dismiss everyone else's opinions.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
He is one of the best journalists and broadcasters the BBC have/had - and his remuneration almost pales into insignificance against that of that GIANT of broadcasting Jeremy Vine (LOL).
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Jezza gets more money because he is on multiple shows. Dan Walker was attacked when the gender pay info came out on the BBC as it was claimed he was paid more than the women doing BBC breakfast next to him. It was then pointed out that he was paid the same as them for doing that show, his greater salary came from the other BBC shows that he did. Same with Jezza.

Anyway, don't knock his R2 slot. It is a good mix of items and he does know his stuff. He is a proper journalist, as is Mair.
 
DaveR said:
Nice reply but give me one FACT about remaining in the EU.

How stable and successful is the EU going to be? FACTS please not your opinion because all you do is dismiss everyone else's opinions.
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The facts are in respect of our current and historical situation. These are facts. There are facts in respect of our continuing trading relations as part of the EU - because we are part of these deals and can take advantage of them (and where that might constrain us); there are many facts about our continuing membership of EU trade, commerce, security and social associations and other bodies, and there are facts about life in the EU under the jurisdiction of the ECJ. All this is known today and we know what has been.

As far as forecasting the actual future - there are no clearly no facts in respect of outcomes - but in the EU we at least know where we stand TODAY and would have a very good idea where we would stand on 30th March 2019.

And so on O'Brien. It is the pro-Leave arguments that callers to O'Brien make on the basis of the historic evidence (or no evidence whatsoever) that he interrogates them on - that evidence and the assertions about the future that they make as if it were fact, whereas the assertions are often based upon no evidence whatsoever.
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
The facts are in respect of our current and historical situation. These are facts. There are facts in respect of our continuing trading relations as part of the EU - because we are part of these deals and can take advantage of them (and where that might constrain us); there are many facts about our continuing membership of EU trade, commerce, security and social associations and other bodies, and there are facts about life in the EU under the jurisdiction of the ECJ. All this is known today and we know what has been.

As far as forecasting the actual future - there are no clearly no facts in respect of outcomes - but in the EU we at least know where we stand TODAY and would have a very good idea where we would stand on 30th March 2019.

And so on O'Brien. It is the pro-Leave arguments that callers to O'Brien make on the basis of the historic evidence (or no evidence whatsoever) that he interrogates them on - that evidence and the assertions about the future that they make as if it were fact, whereas the assertions are often based upon no evidence whatsoever.
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See my highlighted section......pretty much sums up all your posts on the entire Brexit discussion. You have absolutely no idea what our future holds but those in favour of leaving have seen all the wasted money, corruption and feathering of beds that has taken place in Brussels and they are fed up with it.

When we leave, do you seriously think Europe will refuse to trade with us? The Germans won't sell us cars? The French won't sell us cheese and wine? The Italians won't sell pasta and fashion items? Come on, get real. They will do more damage to their own economies than they will to ours.

Open your eyes mate and embrace a whole new world of opportunity.
 
DaveR said:
See my highlighted section......pretty much sums up all your posts on the entire Brexit discussion. You have absolutely no idea what our future holds but those in favour of leaving have seen all the wasted money, corruption and feathering of beds that has taken place in Brussels and they are fed up with it.

When we leave, do you seriously think Europe will refuse to trade with us? The Germans won't sell us cars? The French won't sell us cheese and wine? The Italians won't sell pasta and fashion items? Come on, get real. They will do more damage to their own economies than they will to ours.

Open your eyes mate and embrace a whole new world of opportunity.
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Dave, I'm not sure whether you can get an infraction for being sensible but, if you can, you're going the right way about it 👍👍
 
chrisd said:
Dave, I'm not sure whether you can get an infraction for being sensible but, if you can, you're going the right way about it 
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Actually, I'm quite worried because I like cheese, wine and pasta!

But don't tell Hogan that :rofl:
 
DaveR said:
Actually, I'm quite worried because I like cheese, wine and pasta!

But don't tell Hogan that :rofl:
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You don't need to look further than Wensleydale and Cheddar for your cheese :D. Neither can be beaten. Wine comes in from Australia, New Zealand, California, Chile amongst many others already. I suspect most pasta sold in the UK is made in the UK. It is a cheap and simple product.

No need to buy any of those products from the EU if you don't. If you want keep buying stinky cheese from France then I can't help you but as I don't like that stuff I don't care :whoo:
 
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