Difference between TIGER and RORY

mat100p said:
Difference between Tiger and Rory,,
1. Tiger would never blow a lead like Rory did at both the Honda and Dubai
2. Tiger would not have missed the eagle putt Rory had on 18 reg play
3. Rory only wins when he has 5/6/7/8 shot leads
4. Rory thinks he's new tiger but 13 majors shy
5. Tiger clearly has the biggest ego but the career to back it up Rory big ego great game
But no better than Sergio just he's got over the winning line in majors.
On another note Rory's irons nike? Really!!!! look like titliest blades stamped with a swoosh to me.
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Exactly what point are you trying to make here ?
 
HawkeyeMS said:
Golf club membership decline is Tiger's fault as well know is it? Give me strength.

I don't know the stats, but I do know one person who was inspired by Tiger: me, I'm sure I'm not alone
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I took up golf in 1997 after the Ryder Cup , Seve was my Hero , greatest shot maker in golf , what a player , Tiger was just starting out...................EYG
 
Papas1982 said:
Swap hogans iconic 1 iron, for woods chip in at the 16th? Or as commonly known, Nikes Pr wet dream!
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It wasn't so much Hogan's actual shot - though that was pretty stunning for the time - but the miracle that Hogan was even alive or able to play and it was a 36 hole Final day too!

Woods's chip in is memorable more for how it went in - the PR dream - rather than the quality of the shot. He's certainly hit better imo! Watching him 'on a charge' is pretty 'awesome!:rolleyes:' though!
 
Doon frae Troon said:
Seve, Jonny Miller, Peter Thomson, De Vicenco, Jacklin, Weiscopf, Lema and Sir Bob. were just a bunch of hackers then!
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I don't know the capabilities of Tony Lema at all. using the same method people use to talk about Tiger vs Jack; *all stats on PGA tour only; Tony Lema only won 1 major and 12 tournaments.
Di Vicenco won 8 tournament, 1 major and stopped playing golf in 1968 - which doesn't make him qualify for consistent competition against Jack.
Bob Charles won 6 tournaments, 1 major

Jim Furyk has won 16 tournaments including 1 major, Ernie Els (19 with 1 Major), Phil Mickelson (42, 5 Majors), David Duval (13, 1 Major), Justin Leonard (12, 1 Major), David Toms (13, 1 Major).


The arguement that today's field of golfers is less talented than the field of golfers in 1970s doesn't wash with me. Every other sport in existance has seen a dramatic improvement in the calibre of its players. Why would golf have gone backwards?
 
therod said:
I hear that...I'm tiger woods etc etc, but I'm confused, with all these new tiger converts to the religion of golf why is participation in the uk declining ??

Back on topic , maybe a successful Rory would reverse the decline??
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I think the economy and a lack of disposable income has probably had a bigger impact on the decline in golf, not the fact that people don't like Tiger Woods.
 
JCW said:
Don't forget Nick Faldo as well and Greg Norman and a couple other yanks that had 3 or more , Jack beat the very best to win his , Great major winners all of them , Woods only Had Els , Mickleson, Vijay Singh and Harrington during his time that won 2 majors or more , there you have it , Rory will win 5 or more , if he don't then he would have wasted his talent , he is also not as good a putter as woods or jack .........................:thup:
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Is that the same Nick Faldo that won his first major after Nicklaus had won his last? Or is it some competitor that we haven't heard of that Nicklaus competed against in Major competition?

And is that the same Greg Norman who had also not won a Major by the time Nicklaus had won his last?

To dismiss Tiger's competition throughout his career is an interesting argument but not one that I feel has any real standing. It is harder to win a Major now, more so than it has ever been. Even Jack Nicklaus has admitted this.
 
therod said:
He's a scowling petulant child, whose been caught out at least twice in the last 2 years cheating. He only gets away with it because he is Tiger.
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A bit strong ... and a really odd comment to make.

does that make Rory Sabbatini a petulant child? Unless I have the wrong golfer (and if I do, apologies to mr & mrs Sabbatini) but he cheated on his wife and his wife told everyone about it.

Does that make any man who commits adultery a petulant child?
Heaven forbid the world knew of your misdemeanors.
 
Foxholer said:
It wasn't so much Hogan's actual shot - though that was pretty stunning for the time - but the miracle that Hogan was even alive or able to play and it was a 36 hole Final day too!

Woods's chip in is memorable more for how it went in - the PR dream - rather than the quality of the shot. He's certainly hit better imo! Watching him 'on a charge' is pretty 'awesome!:rolleyes:' though!
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That was kinda my point. I know they've both mad better shots. But I'd would imagine this are the shots we will always see. Only found out all the back story if hogan last year as was late into golf. Impressive indeed that he managed the 36 holes.
 
londonlewis said:
Every other sport in existance has seen a dramatic improvement in the calibre of its players. Why would golf have gone backwards?
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Broadly speaking, I agree with you. Its always an interesting pub debate to compare players or teams from different eras but impossible to substantiate any claims.

I do tend to think the level of competition is tighter now, but I'm much more aware of what's happening in the pro game around the world than I ever was (and certainly when Jack was nearing the end of his career and I was quite young!)

Tiger is undeniably one of the greatest golfers ever and will, rightly, be a legend in the future as per Nicklaus, Palmer, Hogan, Player etc.

However, this one point, quoted above, is quite interesting.

Arguably, the advances in golf are more down to changes in equipment - longer drivers, more forgiving clubs, long putters etc. - than advances in player skill. The top guys (on average) are undoubtedly more athletic and stronger than their 1970s counterparts, which is also a factor.

I do wonder how many of today's top pros could have competed against Jack in his prime, using clubs from that era. Perhaps, purely in terms of the players' skill, golf has gone backwards? Completely unverifiable of course!
 
FairwayDodger said:
Broadly speaking, I agree with you. Its always an interesting pub debate to compare players or teams from different eras but impossible to substantiate any claims.

I do tend to think the level of competition is tighter now, but I'm much more aware of what's happening in the pro game around the world than I ever was (and certainly when Jack was nearing the end of his career and I was quite young!)

Tiger is undeniably one of the greatest golfers ever and will, rightly, be a legend in the future as per Nicklaus, Palmer, Hogan, Player etc.

However, this one point, quoted above, is quite interesting.

Arguably, the advances in golf are more down to changes in equipment - longer drivers, more forgiving clubs, long putters etc. - than advances in player skill. The top guys (on average) are undoubtedly more athletic and stronger than their 1970s counterparts, which is also a factor.

I do wonder how many of today's top pros could have competed against Jack in his prime, using clubs from that era. Perhaps, purely in terms of the players' skill, golf has gone backwards? Completely unverifiable of course!
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Here's a thought; The advancements in equipment have reduced the gap between the average pro golfer and the best pro golfers. Without these advancements how many golfers would possibly have not won the majors they have won? And therefore, how many more Major's would Tiger have won by now?

A particular example would be YE Yang. Yang's bag contains driver, wood and multiple hybrids. When he won the PGA championship his lowest iron was a 7 iron. Without the advancements in club technology would he have beaten Tiger? so would Tiger now have 15 Majors?
 
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londonlewis said:
Here's a thought; The advancements in equipment have reduced the gap between the average pro golfer and the best pro golfers. Without these advancements how many golfers would possibly have not won the majors they have won? And therefore, how many more Major's would Tiger have won by now?

A particular example would be YE Yang. Yang's bag contains driver, wood and multiple hybrids. When he won the PGA championship his lowest iron was a 7 iron. Without the advancements in club technology would he have beaten Tiger? so would Tiger now have 15 Majors?
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Yip - a very good thought. This would make an interesting pub debate alright! :thup:
 
londonlewis said:
Here's a thought; The advancements in equipment have reduced the gap between the average pro golfer and the best pro golfers. Without these advancements how many golfers would possibly have not won the majors they have won? And therefore, how many more Major's would Tiger have won by now?

A particular example would be YE Yang. Yang's bag contains driver, wood and multiple hybrids. When he won the PGA championship his lowest iron was a 7 iron. Without the advancements in club technology would he have beaten Tiger? so would Tiger now have 15 Majors?
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Check your fact if you going to post , Els has 4 majors , 2 US opens and 2 Opens not 1, Jack is the best major winning golfer , plus he was 2nd 19 times too , as for run of the mill tournaments ,more available now and also better transport links for the modern golfer to play more so tiger won more , so majors are the bench mark and tiger is 2nd best for now ........................EYG
 
JCW said:
Check your fact if you going to post , Els has 4 majors , 2 US opens and 2 Opens not 1, Jack is the best major winning golfer , plus he was 2nd 19 times too , as for run of the mill tournaments ,more available now and also better transport links for the modern golfer to play more so tiger won more , so majors are the bench mark and tiger is 2nd best for now ........................EYG
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Regarding Ernie Els; Calm down it was a typo...

Regarding better transport links; is this a joke?
 
lobthewedge said:
I think anyone that discounts or dismisses what Tiger has done for the game is either blinded by hatred for him or is just plain dumb.

I can see Tiger being remembered a bit like Ben Hogan is. Not exactly Mr Charisma on the course or someone you want to play alongside, but universally regarded as one of the true greats of the game.
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Huh - you compare Mr Woods with the incomparable Mr Hogan - how very dare you.

Seriously though - most of the 'awe' around Hogan actually came from his recovery to win a 7 majors after nearly dying in a car crash. That plus his total mastery of the golf swing - a swing indeed that we can (but) try and emulate. A swing based upon supreme technique and timing. Mr Woods has had his own car crash - but not a lot of sympathy from me on that front. And let's see if he wins 7 more majors. And could any of us even try to emulate his swing - and admire his technique? hmmm - not so sure.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Huh - you compare Mr Woods with the incomparable Mr Hogan - how very dare you.

Seriously though - most of the 'awe' around Hogan actually came from his recovery to win a 7 majors after nearly dying in a car crash. That plus his total mastery of the golf swing - a swing indeed that we can (but) try and emulate. A swing based upon supreme technique and timing. Mr Woods has had his own car crash - but not a lot of sympathy from me on that front. And let's see if he wins 7 more majors. And could any of us even try to emulate his swing - and admire his technique? hmmm - not so sure.
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I don't admire his technique, I admire his shots.
 
londonlewis said:
Regarding Ernie Els; Calm down it was a typo...

Regarding better transport links; is this a joke?
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No , better and faster airplanes , private jets , more flights from more airlines , faster cars , freeway and the rest ,everything is more modern these days , even better training methods to keep golfers fitter , then there is the equipment but I leave that for now , no its not a joke at all , its a fact that the modern golfer has more going for him ...........................EYG
 
JCW said:
No , better and faster airplanes , private jets , more flights from more airlines , faster cars , freeway and the rest ,everything is more modern these days , even better training methods to keep golfers fitter , then there is the equipment but I leave that for now , no its not a joke at all , its a fact that the modern golfer has more going for him ...........................EYG
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Gary Player made a great point about this in a programme about his career. The amount of travelling he had to do and how much time he spent doing it was amazing. He thought he'd have won many more majors but for that....
 
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