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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Billysboots said:
Just watching the news, and items showing huge queues at walk-in vaccination centres. What has really surprised me is the sheer number of people in the queues, including people interviewed who claim to be clinically vulnerable, who should have had boosters some time ago.

Why has it taken news of Omicron to get so many senior citizens to get their jabs?
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Why indeed? If everyone who has been offered vaccinations had taken them when they were offered, we would not be in this situation, this race against time.
Sometimes, people act so daft that I find myself questioning universal suffrage.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
Why indeed? If everyone who has been offered vaccinations had taken them when they were offered, we would not be in this situation, this race against time.
Sometimes, people act so daft that I find myself questioning universal suffrage.
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And I have to say it angers me that others, who are now legitimately able to get their boosters, are being shunted down the queue locally, having to defer to those who should have been long since.
 
More covid deaths and a raft of staff off with covid or isolating waiting on a negative PCR. No-one is in a festive mood, many are working on empty and fears of a massive spike of new cases in January. Little festive cheer on the horizon
 
Ethan said:
The vast majority of those staff will take a vaccination, especially if there are other societal pressures to do so. If they don't, assuming they don't have a valid proper exemption (very few good reasons), they should leave.
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I’ll be interested in where all those people will find alternative employment ??‍♂️
 
BiMGuy said:
I’ll be interested in where all those people will find alternative employment ??‍♂️
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2 of my family work in a private care home , they MUST be triple vaccinated, tested twice a week and temperature taken on entry to the building.
If their temperature is too high they're sent home, without pay .
 
HomerJSimpson said:
More covid deaths and a raft of staff off with covid or isolating waiting on a negative PCR. No-one is in a festive mood, many are working on empty and fears of a massive spike of new cases in January. Little festive cheer on the horizon
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Surely at this time it's nothing like a year ago in Hospitals. Things may well get worse but at this time I just can't understand why your hospital is any worse than it's been for some time.
 
SocketRocket said:
Surely at this time it's nothing like a year ago in Hospitals. Things may well get worse but at this time I just can't understand why your hospital is any worse than it's been for some time.
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Maybe something like the NHS staff have been working like dogs the past 19 months and are at breaking point.

Just sayin
 
Someone I know has recently had a stroke, he wont get vaccinated at all, has stopped taking some of the medications that the hospital gave him for the stroke and has told the hospital that if they cant see him in person not to bother phoning him to check on his well being. None of his immediate family have been jabbed either.

Words fail me!
 
PhilTheFragger said:
Maybe something like the NHS staff have been working like dogs the past 19 months and are at breaking point.

Just sayin
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Yes, they always work hard, are you suggesting anyone is denying that.

My point to Homer was that although it's difficult it has been much worse than it is right now, while acknowledging it's probably going to get tougher.
 
SocketRocket said:
Surely at this time it's nothing like a year ago in Hospitals. Things may well get worse but at this time I just can't understand why your hospital is any worse than it's been for some time.
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Quite simply, they’re already worn out. I’ve spoken to any number of ex-colleagues and friends, and the central theme from virtually every single one of them is they can’t face another period like March to June last year. 4x 12 hour shifts fully gowned and masked, with a mortality rate unheard of in modern times. And to hear and watch a 35 year veteran, ICU Sister, in tears as she spoke of the daily torment was heart wrenching. She put her papers in 3 weeks ago and leaves in January. Some of her colleagues have already gone. Some have refused to work in ICU, and the union is involved.
 
SocketRocket said:
Yes, they always work hard, are you suggesting anyone is denying that.

My point to Homer was that although it's difficult it has been much worse than it is right now, while acknowledging it's probably going to get tougher.
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As Frag said, most haven't had any sort of sufficient break and most of those from overseas haven't seen their families for over two years with the visiting restrictions (and additional quarantine requirements at certain times and the high level of infections in some parts of the world) and so that is having a huge impact as we roll towards the festive period, traditionally a time to be together. We are seeing a spike in infected nurses isolating and others waiting on PCR test results. We are seeing more cases come in, primarily as our respiratory ward is now full. Numbers may not be the same as last year but the pressures are as bad
 
There has been a nasty and insidious strategy, happily supported by certain sections of the media, to blame many of the failings of planning and investment in the NHS on front-line staff. I know people who have been placed in impossible situations with a load of demands that could never all be satisfied, and then blamed even when fewer problems arose than might reasonably be expected. Add to that the clapping and 'George Medal' but no tangible form of appreciation, and it is no wonder the staff are exhausted, pissed off and all out of goodwill.
 
Out of interest, I wonder what the true figure is of “ nurse shortage” in the NHS. I remember seeing a figure a few weeks back showing it was over 100,000. I thought straight away surely that’s not right.

Thats said I thought this was a good read re the reasons behind having a booster.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59639973
 
Hobbit said:
Quite simply, they’re already worn out. I’ve spoken to any number of ex-colleagues and friends, and the central theme from virtually every single one of them is they can’t face another period like March to June last year. 4x 12 hour shifts fully gowned and masked, with a mortality rate unheard of in modern times. And to hear and watch a 35 year veteran, ICU Sister, in tears as she spoke of the daily torment was heart wrenching. She put her papers in 3 weeks ago and leaves in January. Some of her colleagues have already gone. Some have refused to work in ICU, and the union is involved.
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That is an awful state of affairs. That dedicated people are pushed to those limits.
It's about time we really took off the kid gloves . People like you have described are being sacrificed because of all this human rights crap being afforded the non vaxxers. It's their "right" etc etc. A "right" that's causing misery .
Well, I'm for putting the rights and wellbeing of the hospital staff , ambulance crews, and all involved in trying to beat this thing, before those of idiots like Chrisd described.

I'm all for making them second class citizens until they think more of their social duty and less of their right .
 
Swinglowandslow said:
That is an awful state of affairs. That dedicated people are pushed to those limits.
It's about time we really took off the kid gloves . People like you have described are being sacrificed because of all this human rights crap being afforded the non vaxxers. It's their "right" etc etc. A "right" that's causing misery .
Well, I'm for putting the rights and wellbeing of the hospital staff , ambulance crews, and all involved in trying to beat this thing, before those of idiots like Chrisd described.

I'm all for making them second class citizens until they think more of their social duty and less of their right .
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Wow! Just Wow! The state of the NHS,the shortage of staff and every other problem is not solely down to non vaxxers!

Talk about burying your head in the sand and deflecting.:mad:
 
pauldj42 said:
Wow! Just Wow! The state of the NHS,the shortage of staff and every other problem is not solely down to non vaxxers!

Talk about burying your head in the sand and deflecting.:mad:
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Additional strain is being put on the NHS by people who are not getting vaccinated and then finishing up in hospital. As has been reported earlier in this thread, hospital staff are getting increasingly angry at these people. Nobody is saying that the NHS is perfect, but why put extra unnecessary strain on the system because you prefer to believe what some unknown idea is posting on social media, and prefer to follow the conspiracy theorists, rather than the medical and technical experts.
 
We were due to take part in an exhibition in Liverpool the first week of January. That was cancelled yesterday due to the latest outbreak. Quite rightly of course, it would have been crazy to continue. Especially as it is an exhibition involving health professionals.
 
Robster59 said:
Additional strain is being put on the NHS by people who are not getting vaccinated and then finishing up in hospital. As has been reported earlier in this thread, hospital staff are getting increasingly angry at these people. Nobody is saying that the NHS is perfect, but why put extra unnecessary strain on the system because you prefer to believe what some unknown idea is posting on social media, and prefer to follow the conspiracy theorists, rather than the medical and technical experts.
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Probably why I said the problem is not solely down to non vaxxers which is what I responded to, obviously they hold some responsibility and personally I’d like to see them forced in to getting the jabs or their civil liberties removed.

But the point stands, the NHS and the Staff have suffered years and years of being taken for granted and not being looked after.

Covid is purely the straw that will break the camel’s back.
 
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