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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Not to mention the Parliament bar was open.....It only stopped serving booze because people complained.


Bunkermagnet said:
Perhaps my point is lost....
I am not looking for excuses to disobey the guidance for any other reason than I don't want to catch the thing, bring it home or spend time off work with it . I am pointing out (obviously missed) that those who make the rules should obey those same rules WITHOUT QUESTION and without trying to wriggle out of something.

We had Cummins and Barnard Castle, various MP's and ministers and now No10. Is it any wonder some dont follow the rules whether they are thick, ignorant, selfish or just a conspiarcy theorist?

Lead by example...not by decree.
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Bunkermagnet said:
Perhaps my point is lost....
I am not looking for excuses to disobey the guidance for any other reason than I don't want to catch the thing, bring it home or spend time off work with it . I am pointing out (obviously missed) that those who make the rules should obey those same rules WITHOUT QUESTION and without trying to wriggle out of something.

We had Cummins and Barnard Castle, various MP's and ministers and now No10. Is it any wonder some dont follow the rules whether they are thick, ignorant, selfish or just a conspiarcy theorist?

Lead by example...not by decree.
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Do you know something we don't?
There are allegations of a party, I've to date seen no evidence or heard anyone admitting anything, you however have made your mind up it's happened.

The media have been in full feeding frenzy this last week and so many are now speaking as if there's no doubt over the allegations. It may be untrue, it may have been just a few people in an office who work together having a glass of wine and a mince pie, it may have been a debaucherous orgy, who knows! Hopefully the truth will be revealed but for gawd sake, surely there's more important things to be concerned about at the moment.
 
SocketRocket said:
Do you know something we don't?
There are allegations of a party, I've to date seen no evidence or heard anyone admitting anything, you however have made your mind up it's happened.

The media have been in full feeding frenzy this last week and so many are now speaking as if there's no doubt over the allegations. It may be untrue, it may have been just a few people in an office who work together having a glass of wine and a mince pie, it may have been a debaucherous orgy, who knows! Hopefully the truth will be revealed but for gawd sake, surely there's more important things to be concerned about at the moment.
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8 parties/drinks/functions etc now being discussed.
The Treasurey admitted today they had impromtu drinks after the budget.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...amid-row-over-downing-street-parties-12492475

We have had absolute denials for weeks and now the PM orders an investigation, maybe, just maybe he should of order the investigation at the beginning of the allegations snd the media wouldn’t be in full feeding frenzy.

Sad fact is, even these people deserved a drink or not, so long as they’re not hiding it or believing the rules don’t apply to them then crack on so long as any socialising was done under Covid rules at the time.

I genuinely believe people are sick of half truths or being treated like idiots.

Have the investigation and prove there’s nothing to hide.
 
pauldj42 said:
Of course not, but if the Queen was found guilty and disciplined for doing that, I don’t think the next time she came on TV and told us to not drink and drive we’d take much notice.

Or are we saying “do as I say not do as I do” is ok?
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Good God man, people break laws every day, many do it. Many cheat the benefit system.
What's with the subliminal suggestion in your post that it is OK ,therefore, for others to do it. ?
 
Bunkermagnet said:
Perhaps my point is lost....
I am not looking for excuses to disobey the guidance for any other reason than I don't want to catch the thing, bring it home or spend time off work with it . I am pointing out (obviously missed) that those who make the rules should obey those same rules WITHOUT QUESTION and without trying to wriggle out of something.

We had Cummins and Barnard Castle, various MP's and ministers and now No10. Is it any wonder some dont follow the rules whether they are thick, ignorant, selfish or just a conspiarcy theorist?

Lead by example...not by decree.
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Somewhere in my post, you will see I agree with you. If they had the party it should be condemned in the strongest possible terms. What I'm saying is that doesn't mean others should feel justified in breaking the same rules.
 
Swinglowandslow said:
Good God man, people break laws every day, many do it. Many cheat the benefit system.
What's with the subliminal suggestion in your post that it is OK ,therefore, for others to do it. ?
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What are you on about, I was answering ChrisD, keep up!
 
pauldj42 said:
What are you on about, I was answering ChrisD, keep up!
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Appreciate who you and Chris were discussing as a make belief drink driver?, but the principles were still the same subject.
However, we have both made several posts giving our views, so perhaps it's time for a rest.
See? You're right - I can't keep up? ( too old)
 
Swinglowandslow said:
Appreciate who you and Chris were discussing as a make belief drink driver?, but the principles were still the same subject.
However, we have both made several posts giving our views, so perhaps it's time for a rest.
See? You're right - I can't keep up? ( too old)
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Or maybe I’ll decide for myself (if I stay within forum rules) when I’ll rest.:rolleyes:
 
bobmac said:
And if you're not convinced?
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If I am not convinced by Prof Whitty and Dr Vallance when it has been, and will continue to be the case, that I want to be convinced by them, then we have serious problems. I must say that, unfortunately, there was something about Whitty’s delivery and demeanour in the Thursday briefing that I found a bit unconvincing…but I went with him, and I was good with Vallance…more than that I cannot say as it drifts into the political.
 
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Billysboots said:
Then he’ll do the same as some of my friends. The friends he has chastised as though they were toddlers.

The hypocrisy in the second post, after a night’s sleep, is staggering.
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Wrong, I will not. I believe that I will continue to follow all guidance and all that is asked of my but I cannot say at this time that that will continue for ever because I cannot look into the future and how I will feel about things in 3, 6, 9 months time or whatever. My post last night simply addressed the fact of viral spread, my post earlier addressed how I feel at the moment given what we know about the omicron virus.
 
pauldj42 said:
8 parties/drinks/functions etc now being discussed.
The Treasurey admitted today they had impromtu drinks after the budget.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...amid-row-over-downing-street-parties-12492475

We have had absolute denials for weeks and now the PM orders an investigation, maybe, just maybe he should of order the investigation at the beginning of the allegations snd the media wouldn’t be in full feeding frenzy.

Sad fact is, even these people deserved a drink or not, so long as they’re not hiding it or believing the rules don’t apply to them then crack on so long as any socialising was done under Covid rules at the time.

I genuinely believe people are sick of half truths or being treated like idiots.

Have the investigation and prove there’s nothing to hide.
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But it's still allegations and I suspect being blown out of all proportion.

It's currently a feeding frenzy and a Witch hunt that the media are blowing out of proportion as usual.
If anyone had a real party and were found culpable then ok they should be disciplined, in the meantime it's just another boring re-padded headline.
 
SocketRocket said:
But it's still allegations and I suspect being blown out of all proportion.

It's currently a feeding frenzy and a Witch hunt that the media are blowing out of proportion as usual.
If anyone had a real party and were found culpable then ok they should be disciplined, in the meantime it's just another boring re-padded headline.
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The Treasurey one isn’t an allegation and without the investigation announcing their findings I’m some what surprised you are so definitive with your views.

Personally I’ll wait until the findings come out as there are far bigger problems that need seeing to and we don’t public confidence being knocked back any further.
 
pauldj42 said:
The Treasurey one isn’t an allegation and without the investigation announcing their findings I’m some what surprised you are so definitive with your views.

Personally I’ll wait until the findings come out as there are far bigger problems that need seeing to and we don’t public confidence being knocked back any further.
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The findings have been written already. The only question is whether there will be a tame functionary sacrificed to appease the media, or whether it will be a complete snow job. The Cabinet Sec is well house-trained.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Wrong, I will not. I believe that I will continue to follow all guidance and all that is asked of my but I cannot say at this time that that will continue for ever because I cannot look into the future and how I will feel about things in 3, 6, 9 months time or whatever. My post last night simply addressed the fact of viral spread, my post earlier addressed how I feel at the moment given what we know about the omicron virus.
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Enormously hypocritical, however you try and extricate yourself.

You openly slag my friends off, some of whom have suggested they may not adhere to future lockdowns for a variety iof reasons, and now you yourself acknowledge that you don’t know you will feel about things in the future? In the same post you say you won’t defy future lockdowns, and then go on to say you don’t know how you’ll act. Which is it, man?

I’m staggered that you can be so patronising and condescending of people you don’t even know, when you are absolutely no different from any of them.

Priceless.
 
Billysboots said:
And you have the temerity to criticise my friends? Have a word with yourself.
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oh excuse me for explaining how virus’s aren’t bothered about how we feel, and that for the time being I am content with going with what the experts are telling me…and that I cannot foresee me going against the advice of the experts but that I cannot rule it out. of course I can’t. But it is not now.
 
pauldj42 said:
The Treasurey one isn’t an allegation and without the investigation announcing their findings I’m some what surprised you are so definitive with your views.

Personally I’ll wait until the findings come out as there are far bigger problems that need seeing to and we don’t public confidence being knocked back any further.
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Isn't that what I said?
 
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