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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Bunkermagnet said:
And those in charge who seem to operate the "do as I say not as I do " policy.
At the start, the mantra was "we are all in this together", well just like Animal Farm..."everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others".

I have no problem with us all trying to do our best to beat the virus, but unless everyone buys into it the fight will be prolonged indefinately. And that's regardless of colour, creed, status, wealth level or whatever else you can think of.
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If a few people (whoever they are) act irresponsibly is that a reason for people to jump on the bandwagon. Complain about it by all means but surely were intelligent enough to know such behaviour is wrong and stupid.
 
SocketRocket said:
If a few people (whoever they are) act irresponsibly is that a reason for people to jump on the bandwagon. Complain about it by all means but surely were intelligent enough to know such behaviour is wrong and stupid.
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I don’t think it’s about our intelligence, it’s more about their trust and credibility.

I believe I can put my hand on my heart and say I have done 99.9% of what has been asked, I couldn’t attend my brother’s funeral, we had to turn family away from my m-in-laws funeral, is it really any hardship to ask those in authority to behave while we suffer.

I will carry on doing what is asked, but these people (if they haven’t behaved) need to be brought to account.
 
Ethan said:
Your friends may be willing to be reckless with their personal health and that of their families, but what gives them the right to do the same for other people, or to risk blocking NHS hospital or ICU beds? A typical Covid ICU patient is in there for some weeks, and every one of them blocks an ICU bed for someone who needs a surgical procedure that requires post-operative ICU. Those patients usually need 2 or 3 days ICU, but their operations are being cancelled if there isn't an ICU bed available, so one reckless Covidiot can stop 5 or 6 such operations. That is probably the same Covidiot who is whining about the effect of restrictions on people with other illnesses, not realising they are possibly going to contribute to the very same problem.

Some degree of social responsibility and maturity is needed here. You might not think wearing a mask is necessary, but if a shop owner asks you to wear one, it is an act of ignorance and gross discourtesy, at the very least, not to do so.
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I agree completely

I am in amazement that people moan about 'stuff' that should be common sense. Infectious diseases containment procedures are well known and must be respected by minimising interaction. However it seems the numpties continually look for ways to behave that counter good medical sense and they examine the fine print of any public information or social responsibility mostly to make mischief or give themselves a minute of fame.

Gawd help us....
 
pauldj42 said:
I don’t think it’s about our intelligence, it’s more about their trust and credibility.

I believe I can put my hand on my heart and say I have done 99.9% of what has been asked, I couldn’t attend my brother’s funeral, we had to turn family away from my m-in-laws funeral, is it really any hardship to ask those in authority to behave while we suffer.

I will carry on doing what is asked, but these people (if they haven’t behaved) need to be brought to account.
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Very laudable, but I reckon 90% of the population have done something (however small) to contravene Covid regulations over the past 2 years, are we going on a witch hunt?
 
chrisd said:
Very laudable, but I reckon 90% of the population have done something (however small) to contravene Covid regulations over the past 2 years, are we going on a witch hunt?
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But just because a few idiots jump of the proverbial cliff surely the obvious stupidity of the act should not encourage other people to do the same...
 
chrisd said:
Very laudable, but I reckon 90% of the population have done something (however small) to contravene Covid regulations over the past 2 years, are we going on a witch hunt?
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I can’t prove or disprove the 90% Chris, you could spot on or way out, but for me that is still nothing to do with those in positions of power abusing said power.

I’m very much “old school” in expecting anyone in such roles to lead by example.
 
drdel said:
But just because a few idiots jump of the proverbial cliff surely the obvious stupidity of the act should not encourage other people to do the same...
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I agree, but we should be talking about getting to the truth not what action some idiots may or may not take.
 
pauldj42 said:
I can’t prove or disprove the 90% Chris, you could spot on or way out, but for me that is still nothing to do with those in positions of power abusing said power.

I’m very much “old school” in expecting anyone in such roles to lead by example.
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So the question is, if the Queen drunk a bottle of vodka and drives round the M25 at 120mph is it alright for everyone to follow suit because, all I see is, "if its alright for them then I should be able to do it"
 
chrisd said:
So the question is, if the Queen drunk a bottle of vodka and drives round the M25 at 120mph is it alright for everyone to follow suit because, all I see is, "if its alright for them then I should be able to do it"
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Of course not, but if the Queen was found guilty and disciplined for doing that, I don’t think the next time she came on TV and told us to not drink and drive we’d take much notice.

Or are we saying “do as I say not do as I do” is ok?
 
pauldj42 said:
Of course not, but if the Queen was found guilty and disciplined for doing that, I don’t think the next time she came on TV and told us to not drink and drive we’d take much notice.

Or are we saying “do as I say not do as I do” is ok?
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I wouldn't do it because I know it would be wrong and even if the entire royal family drove in a convoy in that state, I would still not copy them because I know it's wrong. I am just arguing the "if they can do it why cant I " question
 
drdel said:
But just because a few idiots jump of the proverbial cliff surely the obvious stupidity of the act should not encourage other people to do the same...
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It shouldn’t but couple a restless annnoyed population witnessing the very law makers, officials, rich people, modellers do things they’ve told the plebs not to do for nearly two years I’ll think you’ll find not only encouragement but a free pass.
 
chrisd said:
I wouldn't do it because I know it would be wrong and even if the entire royal family drove in a convoy in that state, I would still not copy them because I know it's wrong. I am just arguing the "if they can do it why cant I " question
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Trust and credibility, next time it may only be advice or a request and if it’s coming from someone you have no faith in then they are wasting their time.
 
drdel said:
But just because a few idiots jump of the proverbial cliff surely the obvious stupidity of the act should not encourage other people to do the same...
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No, it shouldn't, but copious evidence that it will, and those that are doing the stuff we are concerned about understand this better than most, because they exploit it all the time.
 
Been to see my parents today, they spent 3 hours down town yesterday. I have told them in no uncertain terms that December this year is the same as December last year. They have to reel it in. It has not gone down to well. It is what it is unfortunately
 
Bunkermagnet said:
And those in charge who seem to operate the "do as I say not as I do " policy.
At the start, the mantra was "we are all in this together", well just like Animal Farm..."everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others".

I have no problem with us all trying to do our best to beat the virus, but unless everyone buys into it the fight will be prolonged indefinately. And that's regardless of colour, creed, status, wealth level or whatever else you can think of.
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Have I missed something, or not up to date, but it seems to me that the situation is this at the moment.
There is strong allegation that there was a No.10 Xmas party (against restriction requirements). It is officially denied.
The video of a woman who seemed half drunk to me has been taken as evidence there was? Whatever it was, it was in really bad taste, but it didn't seem to me to prove there was a party.
There is an enquiry ongoing.
So, we have got strong allegations , fuelled by the media, but as yet no admission, nor proof.
But a helluva lot of people have decided there was a party. And gone on to say " Therefore why should I comply with restrictions and advice now? ( notwithstanding the doubling every two or three days of infections of Omicron, and the feared increase in ICU beds takeup)

I agree, anger is justified, IF it turns out there was a party.
But not the " I won't comply because of it."

Much as some dislike this Government, it is not imposing restrictions for any other reason but to stop this virus' worst effects.

Logic and responsibility by each of us, regardless of others behaviour ,must be the main thought, surely?
 
Last year, I could have a boozy lunch with lots of colleagues. The majority couldn't sit next to someone not in their household. How is that fair?

You are right, but how could you rationalise that to someone?

bobmac said:
The virus doesn't care and other peoples behaviour doesn't affect what I do.
If someone thinks ''well if they can do it, so can I'', then we're going to be stuck with this for years.
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Swinglowandslow said:
Have I missed something, or not up to date, but it seems to me that the situation is this at the moment.
There is strong allegation that there was a No.10 Xmas party (against restriction requirements). It is officially denied.
The video of a woman who seemed half drunk to me has been taken as evidence there was? Whatever it was, it was in really bad taste, but it didn't seem to me to prove there was a party.
There is an enquiry ongoing.
So, we have got strong allegations , fuelled by the media, but as yet no admission, nor proof.
But a helluva lot of people have decided there was a party. And gone on to say " Therefore why should I comply with restrictions and advice now? ( notwithstanding the doubling every two or three days of infections of Omicron, and the feared increase in ICU beds takeup)

I agree, anger is justified, IF it turns out there was a party.
But not the " I won't comply because of it."

Much as some dislike this Government, it is not imposing restrictions for any other reason but to stop this virus' worst effects.

Logic and responsibility by each of us, regardless of others behaviour ,must be the main thought, surely?
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Perhaps my point is lost....
I am not looking for excuses to disobey the guidance for any other reason than I don't want to catch the thing, bring it home or spend time off work with it . I am pointing out (obviously missed) that those who make the rules should obey those same rules WITHOUT QUESTION and without trying to wriggle out of something.

We had Cummins and Barnard Castle, various MP's and ministers and now No10. Is it any wonder some dont follow the rules whether they are thick, ignorant, selfish or just a conspiarcy theorist?

Lead by example...not by decree.
 
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