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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

It is precisely this point which has prompted so many of my friends, golfing and otherwise, to say they will ignore any future lockdown.
Because unfortunately for your friends, a virus neither cares nor bothers about how cheesed off I might be about living with measures to try and restrict its spread, and simply shrugs when I indignantly declare that I am doubly and booster vaccinated. If it can get to me then it will take its chances and see how infected and ill it can make me, then use me as a transport mechanism to others as it seeks more victims. It really shouldn’t be (and isn’t) that difficult for your friends to understand.
 
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Had a cracking Christmas office social. probably 200 people, first time since 2019. Great drinks, Black tie. Fantastic.

All my company tested negative on lateral flow before, and had to present covid passes. Wasn't intrusive. Just like showing ID at a club. Not a fan of restrictions, but the being able to take a free lateral flow is no biggie at all. First time things have felt normal.
 
Had a cracking Christmas office social. probably 200 people, first time since 2019. Great drinks, Black tie. Fantastic.

All my company tested negative on lateral flow before, and had to present covid passes. Wasn't intrusive. Just like showing ID at a club. Not a fan of restrictions, but the being able to take a free lateral flow is no biggie at all. First time things have felt normal.

I felt that a few weeks ago at Winter Wonderland and the theatre then the pings went off. Lateral flows are almost worthless, so many people I know have delivered negatives for days and tested positive on a PCR in the last few weeks alone. At least your 10 day isolation will be over before Christmas!
 
Isn't it still possible to take a lateral flow test at home, have a positive result and register it as negative. When I had to do one you just said that you'd had a negative result. No actual proof needed. Has this been changed?

I have to have PCR tests at work so don't do the LFT's.
 
Because unfortunately for your friends, a virus neither cares nor bothers about how cheesed off I might be about living with measures to try and restrict its spread, and simply shrugs when I indignantly declare that I am doubly and booster vaccinated. If it can get to me then it will take its chances and see how infected and ill it can make me, then use me as a transport mechanism to others as it seeks more victims. It really shouldn’t be (and isn’t) that difficult for your friends to understand.
I will just add that at the moment i do not believe the circumstances and the evidence in respect of the omicron virus merit a further lockdown, but if the government require that and I am convinced by the scientific and medical communities that the scientific evidence supports such, then I will comply. And believe me, there is much that will make me doubt the motives of this government and that I could easily use as an excuse to not comply, but comply I strongly suspect I would.
 
I will just add that at the moment i do not believe the circumstances and the evidence in respect of the omicron virus merit a further lockdown, but if the government require that and I am convinced by the scientific and medical communities that the scientific evidence supports such, then I will comply. And believe me, there is much that will make me doubt the motives of this government and that I could easily use as an excuse to not comply, but comply I strongly suspect I would.

And if you're not convinced?
 
Isn't it still possible to take a lateral flow test at home, have a positive result and register it as negative. When I had to do one you just said that you'd had a negative result. No actual proof needed. Has this been changed?

I have to have PCR tests at work so don't do the LFT's.

Wife was saying a lot of her colleagues are getting positives on their LFT then negative PCR , happened to a colleague of mine aswell.

I met up with my cousin yesterday, his sister moved to Abu Dhabi in the summer and he was saying how strict they are over there

PCR test every 3 days think he said. With results sent to government, can't go anywhere without them

Masks enforced strickly. Fined if you don't have one on etc
 
Because unfortunately for your friends, a virus neither cares nor bothers about how cheesed off I might be about living with measures to try and restrict its spread, and simply shrugs when I indignantly declare that I am doubly and booster vaccinated. If it can get to me then it will take its chances and see how infected and ill it can make me, then use me as a transport mechanism to others as it seeks more victims. It really shouldn’t be (and isn’t) that difficult for your friends to understand.

I know. But thanks for pointing it out.
 
Had a cracking Christmas office social. probably 200 people, first time since 2019. Great drinks, Black tie. Fantastic.

All my company tested negative on lateral flow before, and had to present covid passes. Wasn't intrusive. Just like showing ID at a club. Not a fan of restrictions, but the being able to take a free lateral flow is no biggie at all. First time things have felt normal.

had similar on Thursday - circa 100 people, all had covid test on the day or night before. Graet set up at the HAC in the City - stunning place, great company and lots of cheap booze!
 
I will just add that at the moment i do not believe the circumstances and the evidence in respect of the omicron virus merit a further lockdown, but if the government require that and I am convinced by the scientific and medical communities that the scientific evidence supports such, then I will comply. And believe me, there is much that will make me doubt the motives of this government and that I could easily use as an excuse to not comply, but comply I strongly suspect I would.

And you have the temerity to criticise my friends? Have a word with yourself.
 
With regards any further restrictions that can be placed I’m not entirely sure how much further the Government could go. Obviously they have the power to announce a full lockdown but how many would actually listen to that? I’d guess a fraction of those that did in March of last year. They’re definitely not going to want to close down hospitality and retail again so I guess they can extend the offer as of Vaccine Passports to any indoor setting.

I think that if they tried to restrict people seeing friends and families again that’d be the point where a considerable number stop listening and start deciding what to follow based on their own personal circumstances. My parents are in the mid 70’s and healthy, they’ve already said that they’re not going through another Christmas like last year so this year will happen regardless. They are boostered up and as protected as they can be. Again, with friends as long as people are happy to mix we will
continue to do so.
 
Because unfortunately for your friends, a virus neither cares nor bothers about how cheesed off I might be about living with measures to try and restrict its spread, and simply shrugs when I indignantly declare that I am doubly and booster vaccinated. If it can get to me then it will take its chances and see how infected and ill it can make me, then use me as a transport mechanism to others as it seeks more victims. It really shouldn’t be (and isn’t) that difficult for your friends to understand.

Somewhat condescending, but not surprising, for you to suggest they don't understand; I'm sure they understand perfectly. I'm equally sure that they are somewhat peed off that those who impose the lockdowns seem to think it doesn't apply to them. I am extremely peed off with some of the news that is coming out.

It doesn't make their thoughts right, and it doesn't mean I agree with them, condone them or will join them, but I can perfectly understand why they feel like that and why they would think like that, having made sacrifices that others seem to think they are exempt from.
 
If the vaccine booster roll out goes as planned and all adults have been triple jabbed (or refused) by end of January, I am interested then to see if any recent restrictions will be lifted or will the permanent threat of the next variant of concern mean that it is only sensible to continue to be vigilant/cautious/careful. If so, then I think there may well be compliance issues as this would appear to be a semi permanent set of rules.
 
It is precisely this point which has prompted so many of my friends, golfing and otherwise, to say they will ignore any future lockdown.

Your friends may be willing to be reckless with their personal health and that of their families, but what gives them the right to do the same for other people, or to risk blocking NHS hospital or ICU beds? A typical Covid ICU patient is in there for some weeks, and every one of them blocks an ICU bed for someone who needs a surgical procedure that requires post-operative ICU. Those patients usually need 2 or 3 days ICU, but their operations are being cancelled if there isn't an ICU bed available, so one reckless Covidiot can stop 5 or 6 such operations. That is probably the same Covidiot who is whining about the effect of restrictions on people with other illnesses, not realising they are possibly going to contribute to the very same problem.

Some degree of social responsibility and maturity is needed here. You might not think wearing a mask is necessary, but if a shop owner asks you to wear one, it is an act of ignorance and gross discourtesy, at the very least, not to do so.
 
Your friends may be willing to be reckless with their personal health and that of their families, but what gives them the right to do the same for other people, or to risk blocking NHS hospital or ICU beds? A typical Covid ICU patient is in there for some weeks, and every one of them blocks an ICU bed for someone who needs a surgical procedure that requires post-operative ICU. Those patients usually need 2 or 3 days ICU, but their operations are being cancelled if there isn't an ICU bed available, so one reckless Covidiot can stop 5 or 6 such operations. That is probably the same Covidiot who is whining about the effect of restrictions on people with other illnesses, not realising they are possibly going to contribute to the very same problem.

Some degree of social responsibility and maturity is needed here. You might not think wearing a mask is necessary, but if a shop owner asks you to wear one, it is an act of ignorance and gross discourtesy, at the very least, not to do so.

I don’t disagree with anything you say.
 
The more people get vaccinated, the fewer 'hosts' the virus will find and the fewer new variants we will see.

If anyone is fed up with lockdowns, don't blame the scientists or the government, blame the misinformed.
And those in charge who seem to operate the "do as I say not as I do " policy.
At the start, the mantra was "we are all in this together", well just like Animal Farm..."everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others".

I have no problem with us all trying to do our best to beat the virus, but unless everyone buys into it the fight will be prolonged indefinately. And that's regardless of colour, creed, status, wealth level or whatever else you can think of.
 
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