Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

[Ethan]

In theory, and this is just the sort of thing that plays around in my head with no basis in reality, could the theta variant, lets say, end up being far more infectious, vaccine immune but only gives you a mild cough lets say. Understand that the natural fear and assumption is that each variant will get worse but is it possible for the variants to go in the other direction.

Sure, new variants could be more transmissible but less lethal. The most transmissible tend to become themes common variants, because they propagate faster than others. One that produces a very mild cough only could go unnoticed, though, as people wouldn't come forward for testing and the number of community cases might be difficult to judge. Lots of people get exposed to, and transmit, the cold or flu without ever getting symptoms themselves.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

We seem to have forgotten that June 21st was only a "Not before..." target date depending on the prevailing conditions and prior to the rise in cases due to the Delta variant.

Anybody making plans based on the 21st should have also made a robust contingency strategy.

But we know it has been labelled and subsequently referred to by some as ‘Freedom Day’ - and a date so identified by a name tend to happen on a specific date.

 

[GB72]

But we know it has been labelled and subsequently referred to by some as ‘Freedom Day’ - and a date so identified by a name tend to happen on a specific date.

The press appear to have given it the name, surprised the big card companies did not follow suit, produce freedom day cards and make it an annual thing.

Am i the only one who thinks of the classic Futurama episode when hearing about freedom day

 

[Blue in Munich]

Given the restrictions at the recent Champions League final & the proposed reductions in capacity at Wembley for the Euros, can anyone explain to me why there appears to be bugger all social distancing at Edgbaston for the Test match against the Kiwis?

 

[fundy]

Given the restrictions at the recent Champions League final & the proposed reductions in capacity at Wembley for the Euros, can anyone explain to me why there appears to be bugger all social distancing at Edgbaston for the Test match against the Kiwis?

its a test event, everyone had to be tested in advance and prove test results to get in and being tested several time afterwards

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Given the restrictions at the recent Champions League final & the proposed reductions in capacity at Wembley for the Euros, can anyone explain to me why there appears to be bugger all social distancing at Edgbaston for the Test match against the Kiwis?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/inews....est-covid-pilot-social-distancing-1043318/amp

 

[larmen]

its a test event, everyone had to be tested in advance and prove test results to get in and being tested several time afterwards

There have been test events (I seem to remember a concert?) before, has anything been said about what happened? I think in the Netherlands they had a rave with no spikes after.

 

[MGFore]

I was watching the cycling the other week and after it was Horse jumping from St Tropez. All spectators sat sipping champagne, no social distancing or anything. Then at another cycle event in France, hardly anyone out watching and those that were all had masks on. Seems like the elite are immune from it.

 

[fundy]

There have been test events (I seem to remember a concert?) before, has anything been said about what happened? I think in the Netherlands they had a rave with no spikes after.

Been lots of events now, not sure Ive seen any formal results, anecdotally heard the results after a club night in Liverpool were good.

Cynical me might suggest the results dont support the current plans

 

[MGFore]

There have been test events (I seem to remember a concert?) before, has anything been said about what happened? I think in the Netherlands they had a rave with no spikes after.

Aye there was a rave thing in Liverpool. What happened then? That was about 4 weeks ago.

 

[fundy]

Some results from a few weeks ago and the early test events

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/covid-trials-crowd-mass-events-b1851700.html

 

[fundy]

Aye there was a rave thing in Liverpool. What happened then? That was about 4 weeks ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-57249289

 

[GB72]

There have been test events (I seem to remember a concert?) before, has anything been said about what happened? I think in the Netherlands they had a rave with no spikes after.

I think I posted the results from them earlier in the thread. I think there was something like 12 cases from all the events, 6 from the clubbing nights indoors, none from football, a few from the snooker but all pretty positive.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

The press appear to have given it the name, surprised the big card companies did not follow suit, produce freedom day cards and make it an annual thing.

Am i the only one who thinks of the classic Futurama episode when hearing about freedom day

Not all of the press and not all of the media in general have done so.

Anyway and for what it’s worth, my cousin has tickets for the England vs Sri Lanka one day match on the 26th June. He’s just been advised by email that as a result of ECB discussions with UK Gov, social distancing measures will remain in place. Decision about 21st been made ?

 

[GB72]

Not all of the press and not all of the media in general have done so.

Anyway and for what it’s worth, my cousin has tickets for the England vs Sri Lanka one day match on the 26th June. He’s just been advised by email that as a result of ECB discussions with UK Gov, social distancing measures will remain in place. Decision about 21st been made ?

Pretty much the only place that I have seen it called freedom day is the press, not seen it from any official source. Suspect that it is pretty much obvious to everyone that there will be a delay announced but would not be good for that to interfere with the G7 conference. Expect a Monday evening/night press conference. May get one or 2 concessions like being able to order a drink from the bar, that is one I have seen proposed, but can see a 2 week delay with plenty of wiggle room allowed for more time on top. Not the time now to be rash, we have a pretty big slice of normality back and I can happily hold as we are for a while yet.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Pretty much the only place that I have seen it called freedom day is the press, not seen it from any official source. Suspect that it is pretty much obvious to everyone that there will be a delay announced but would not be good for that to interfere with the G7 conference. Expect a Monday evening/night press conference. May get one or 2 concessions like being able to order a drink from the bar, that is one I have seen proposed, but can see a 2 week delay with plenty of wiggle room allowed for more time on top. Not the time now to be rash, we have a pretty big slice of normality back and I can happily hold as we are for a while yet.

As mentioned...it’s easy to be principled and support holding as we are if I am have steady income; am in stable employment, or on furlough. There are very many who are not so fortunate. A 4 week slippage of Freedom Day could be very damaging for some, as long as that is recognised.

 

[D-S]

As mentioned...it’s easy to be principled and support holding as we are if I am have steady income; am in stable employment, or on furlough. There are very many who are not so fortunate. A 4 week slippage of Freedom Day could be very damaging for some, as long as that is recognised.

As said before, it has not been labelled Freedom Day by official sources, it is a ‘not before‘ date. You can choose to call it the ‘we all get £20k day’ if you want but that will also be a disappointment. Restrictions will be not relaxed before 21st June, which may and probably will mean that they won’t be relaxed totally until some weeks afterwards.
Believing what our media has made up and being upset when it doesn’t happen is a recipe for disappointment.

 

[SaintHacker]

Not all of the press and not all of the media in general have done so.

Anyway and for what it’s worth, my cousin has tickets for the England vs Sri Lanka one day match on the 26th June. He’s just been advised by email that as a result of ECB discussions with UK Gov, social distancing measures will remain in place. Decision about 21st been made ?

Interesting. I'm waiting to hear if the British grand prix will go ahead this year, if this 4 week extension does happen i guess thay will be a no for a second year ?

 

[GB72]

As mentioned...it’s easy to be principled and support holding as we are if I am have steady income; am in stable employment, or on furlough. There are very many who are not so fortunate. A 4 week slippage of Freedom Day could be very damaging for some, as long as that is recognised.

But now there are reports of areas such as the hospitality industry now crying out for staff, even on a temporary basis. The damage is certainly recognized as is the hardship but now there are starting to be opportunities at least to keep people ticking over for another month.

 

[GB72]

Interesting. I'm waiting to hear if the British grand prix will go ahead this year, if this 4 week extension does happen i guess thay will be a no for a second year ?

Interesting. I'm waiting to hear if the British grand prix will go ahead this year, if this 4 week extension does happen i guess thay will be a no for a second year ?

Was it on the list of test events, would be surprised if it was not.