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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

pauljames87 said:
To be fair he called it Chinese flu
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...and he had no real evidence for what he was saying...I suspect that he was simply repeatedly stressing on it in an attempt to divert attention from his own and his administrations utter failure to take it seriously at first. I don’t think there is any debate about him not taking it seriously at first but won’t enter into any debate on the matter as that would be politikal.
 
Blue in Munich said:
It was the most common sense talked about this subject in a long time, & you weren't the only one pinching yourself. :eek:
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Totally agree. Once the vaccination program started there was always going to be a watershed moment, beyond which the expectation that those fully vaccinated still had to live under severe restrictions had to ease. You can’t expect people to accept the vaccine if you aren’t going to allow increased freedoms in return - the public simply won’t stand for it.
 
Hobbit said:
Deliberately extreme to highlight a potential issue of discrimination. As I said, I’m all for a vaccine passport/QR code but only if it’s used for the right things at the right time.
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I imagine it will be down to individual establishments who they let in. And if there's two pubs near each other, one of which only lets in vaccinated punters, i know which one I will be going in!
 
Billysboots said:
Totally agree. Once the vaccination program started there was always going to be a watershed moment, beyond which the expectation that those fully vaccinated still had to live under severe restrictions had to ease. You can’t expect people to accept the vaccine if you aren’t going to allow increased freedoms in return - the public simply won’t stand for it.
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Billysboots said:
- the public simply won’t stand for it.
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The amount of people I have now spoken to who are saying the same I feel that tipping point isn't far away that people say we've had enough, poke your restrictions we're getting on with life
 
SaintHacker said:
I imagine it will be down to individual establishments who they let in. And if there's two pubs near each other, one of which only lets in vaccinated punters, i know which one I will be going in!
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And that’s where the danger lies Paul. Some fruitcake fire bombs the non-vaxxed/anti-vaxxers. The unclean ones!

I genuinely don’t know the right answer but I am also against non-vaxxed from international travel and attending large events.

Yes bring something sensible in but let’s not place a stigma on those not yet vaxxed.
 
chrisd said:
Not sure about being so wrong

But lorries, by the thousand from all different countries, came in before the need to have a test came in just about Christmas and New Year, and it was known that Covid was rife in the army camp used for hundreds of migrants who were crossing the Channel up to a few hundred a day.
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Oh I don't know, it just sounded like the usual 'blame it on foreigners, especially asylum seekers' Daily Mail rubbish. As asylum seekers are, as you say, separated from the rest of the population, it seems a far more reasonable assumption that British people were spreading it. There's a lot more of them and they were mixing freely. Colossal number of idiots were choosing to ignore the rules.
 
Hobbit said:
Deliberately extreme to highlight a potential issue of discrimination. As I said, I’m all for a vaccine passport/QR code but only if it’s used for the right things at the right time.
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It is not discrimination if everyone has the opportunity to get one. If people choose not to get the vax (and there are very very few who medically can't), then they accept the consequences. They have the right not to be vacc'd but not the right to spread the infection to others.
 
If anybody has been offered the vaccine and turned it down (excluding medical exemptions), I'd lock them up and keep them locked up until they did have it.
 
bobmac said:
If anybody has been offered the vaccine and turned it down (excluding medical exemptions), I'd lock them up and keep them locked up until they did have it.
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A tad extreme, I would merely politely but firmly request that they continue shielding until either they get themselves vaccinated or the pandemic is over. With necessary checks and punishments if they decided not to shiel, persistent offenders would face jail, preferably after a long time on remand (Quarantine).?
 
bobmac said:
If anybody has been offered the vaccine and turned it down (excluding medical exemptions), I'd lock them up and keep them locked up until they did have it.
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What would you do with those were the vaccine doesn’t have an effect? send them to the gas chambers? Work camp?
Perhaps we should test the efficacy of each other’s vaccine response so to weed those hidden unclean people out.
Why if they’re medically exempt would you spare them? Obviously they are not good for society, spread the illness and should be disposed of?
 
bobmac said:
If anybody has been offered the vaccine and turned it down (excluding medical exemptions), I'd lock them up and keep them locked up until they did have it.
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What about some of the ladies that are pregnant that are worried about the effects ? There are still people who will be worried about the side affects
 
Jamesbrown said:
What would you do with those were the vaccine doesn’t have an effect? send them to the gas chambers? Work camp?
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How would you know if the vaccine doesn’t have an effect unless you take the vaccine.

Liverpoolphil said:
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What about some of the ladies that are pregnant that are worried about the effects ? There are still people who will be worried about the side affects
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And the people with medical exemptions will get a tweaked vaccine when available.
 
Isn't there a theory that suggests that any internet forum thread will eventually end with people comparing the other side of their argument to the nazis?
 
RichA said:
Isn't there a theory that suggests that any internet forum thread will eventually end with people comparing the other side of their argument to the nazis?
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Will when one group thinks they should send what they think are unclean no good to society people to prison it sort of mirrors the thinking of a man with a rubbish moustache.
 
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