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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Really hope the government don’t take all the brakes off on 21st June just to prove that they are sticking to their timetable. A lot of the proposed relaxations won’t affect the way the vast majority live.
if the science says a small delay is sensible and a gradual easing rather than the Big Bang is a more prudent way let’s just do it like that.
Let’s sort this once and for all and when the vast majority are double jabbed then we can really get back to normal.
 
D-S said:
Really hope the government don’t take all the brakes off on 21st June just to prove that they are sticking to their timetable. A lot of the proposed relaxations won’t affect the way the vast majority live.
if the science says a small delay is sensible and a gradual easing rather than the Big Bang is a more prudent way let’s just do it like that.
Let’s sort this once and for all and when the vast majority are double jabbed then we can really get back to normal.
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It’s political and won’t comment too much other than to say that I can’t see Johnson not doing the 21st...as much as he might caution at the moment and almost no matter what the data says. It’s just too political.

I certainly hope that it’s the 21st as a delay of any significance will impact me directly, but I’d rather that relaxing of restrictions is not at any cost.
 
D-S said:
Let’s sort this once and for all and when the vast majority are double jabbed then we can really get back to normal.
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I’m not in favour of a delay however if there is to be one it should be only be until the point that all over 50’s and those who are vulnerable have been offered their second jab. These account for 99% of deaths and the present plan is that they will have all been double jabbed by the 21st. Assuming that’s successful then add a week if it’s really necessary but then everything should be opened.
 
Option 1 - 21st June easing remains in place - usual suspects in the media/politics etc immediately criticize decision.
Option 2 - 21st June easing delayed - same usual suspects in the media/politics change their opinion and immediately criticize decision.

Sad state of affairs really.
 
I am in favour of an intermediary step. At the moment we are as far down the route of opening everything up as we got last year. Everything after this is untested. I can see the benefit of another period where you can have, lets say, groups of 12 indoors, up to 60 outside, maybe remove compulsory table service in pubs etc. That would allow most people to live a pretty normal life whilst giving a bit more time for data collection before the final relaxation of everything.
 
road2ruin said:
I’m not in favour of a delay however if there is to be one it should be only be until the point that all over 50’s and those who are vulnerable have been offered their second jab. These account for 99% of deaths and the present plan is that they will have all been double jabbed by the 21st. Assuming that’s successful then add a week if it’s really necessary but then everything should be opened.
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We shoud just encourage those that haven't had their second jab and the vulnerable to take precautions and let the rest of us crack on?
 
BiMGuy said:
We shoud just encourage those that haven't had their second jab and the vulnerable to take precautions and let the rest of us crack on?
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If you are amongst the aged/vulnerable groups and have made a decision not to have the jab then that’s your decision however that should not stop the rest of society opening up.

If all others in those categories have had the opportunity by 21st June which is the plan then I see so reason why anything should be particularly delayed.
 
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bobmac said:
What's the latest on the covid passport, is it going to happen?
The sooner the better I'd say.
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Depends on what you read

Looks like the EU countries are looking to have something in place for travellers coming into their various countries

There will be UK venues that require it - stadiums etc

But don’t see anything in regards entry into the UK requiring one

I have a feeling that the UK would be too worried about applying it
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Depends on what you read

Looks like the EU countries are looking to have something in place for travellers coming into their various countries

There will be UK venues that require it - stadiums etc

But don’t see anything in regards entry into the UK requiring one

I have a feeling that the UK would be too worried about applying it
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Why?
 
Well I am certainly not going to be going abroad until a vaccine passport does away with the need for pre travel and in country testing.
Apart from the cost and sheer hassle, the risk of someone in the group testing positive before flying and not being able to get on the flight and the loss of both holiday and money and the same stress over someone testing positive prior to returning would render a supposedly relaxing time into a lot of stress. Green list or no green list, travel will not open properly until people can use the QR code on their NHS App to dodge the testing regime.
 
I agree... overseas travel is currently too much hassle. I would also prefer to spend my holiday cash in Cornwall, West Wales or the Lakes etc to support businesses there! :)

2nd jab on Monday... no howling at the moon yet! But a worrying addiction to Jacobs Mini-Cheddars, Red Leicester flavour. Not sure if there's a connection!
 
drdel said:
I'll bet most people carry some form of ID for work, and the NHS App shows vaccination status so I personally see no real infringements.
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The infringement relates to people who do not want to have the vaccine, and possibly those who can not, although I would expect the govt to have something up their sleeve for that group as that is not a choice they have made. Should people have to have a vaccine before being allowed into a pub, restaurant, shop, cinema etc? It is a civil liberties question.

Those who have had both jabs I suspect would be happy to wave the proof around, the issue isn't with that group.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
The infringement relates to people who do not want to have the vaccine, and possibly those who can not, although I would expect the govt to have something up their sleeve for that group as that is not a choice they have made. Should people have to have a vaccine before being allowed into a pub, restaurant, shop, cinema etc? It is a civil liberties question.

Those who have had both jabs I suspect would be happy to wave the proof around, the issue isn't with that group.
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As I understood it, the vaccine passport will allow people to show that they have had both jabs, have recently had a negative test or have antibodies from recently recovering from Covid. It doesn't just have to be vaccination that allows access to locations or for travel.
 
ColchesterFC said:
As I understood it, the vaccine passport will allow people to show that they have had both jabs, have recently had a negative test or have antibodies from recently recovering from Covid. It doesn't just have to be vaccination that allows access to locations or for travel.
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Sadly there is a vocal minority that do not think they should have to do any of these things, nor social distance, not wear a mask.
 
GB72 said:
Sadly there is a vocal minority that do not think they should have to do any of these things, nor social distance, not wear a mask.
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Correct, and they should be told in no uncertain terms that they cannot be " as free as" those who have been responsible enough to be protected.
No passport - no access.
When they play the civil liberties card, they should be told to shut up and suck up.
 
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