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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

fundy said:
so what level would you call effective? 1% as is its higher than 0?
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60% effective doesn't mean that it will only help 6 out of 10 people. It is more of a measure of how much less each person is damaged by it. Less hospitalisations/deaths/long covid etc.
 
''Public Health England (PHE) said the difference in effectiveness between the vaccines after two doses may be explained by the fact that rollout of second doses of AstraZeneca was later than for the Pfizer vaccine, which was approved first.
Other data shows it takes longer to reach maximum effectiveness with the AstraZeneca vaccine,'' PHE said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57214596
 
ExRabbit said:
When I did that last week, the same sort of thing happened to us - I got an email straight away, but the one for my wife, via my email, didn't arrive until the next morning.
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Snap(ish); Mrs. BiM has woken up this morning to find the text. Strange it took so long as when I cancelled mine I still had my phone in my hand and the alert was instantaneous. :unsure: Still, both cancelled so freed up for someone else & 2 vaccines not wasted. (y)
 
bobmac said:
''Public Health England (PHE) said the difference in effectiveness between the vaccines after two doses may be explained by the fact that rollout of second doses of AstraZeneca was later than for the Pfizer vaccine, which was approved first.
Other data shows it takes longer to reach maximum effectiveness with the AstraZeneca vaccine,'' PHE said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57214596
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The second statement is borne out by data, the first one is patently rubbish and they know it. The Pfizer vaccine is more effective after the first and second vaccine than AZ or Janssen. It may be a feature of the immunological resistance offered to the viral vector. Both vaccines how a small reduction in efficacy against the B1.617.2 (India) variant than the B1.1.7 (the most common UK variant) but still pretty good.

The AZ vaccine is still very effective, but they need to get over contriving arguments to suggest it is as effective or more effective than Pfizer. It just isn't.

Note also that a figure of 33% (B1.1617.2) or 50% (B1.1.7) was quoted for the 3 weeks after vax. That is not the same as the efficacy at 3 weeks after, which is considerably higher.
 
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The number of deaths for the last week
23rd .......5
22nd .......6
21st ........9
20th ........7
19th ........3
18th ........7
17th ........5

While any deaths are bad news, the overall downward trend is very encouraging with the next few weeks being vitally important to the 'roadmap'
 
fundy said:
is a "vaccine" being 60% effective good news?
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Yes, that means that it will reduce the rate of clinical infection, but the vaccines also reduce the severity of disease and risk of hospitalisation or death in the 40% who do not get the disease prevented. The FDA threshold for approving a vaccine for Covid is 50%.
 
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