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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

pauljames87 said:
I've got mine on a Friday. Before my 12 hour weekend shifts

(2nd jab suppose to be less effects)

Even if it was I can function enough to work
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I've heard and read the same about the effects on the booster (thank goodness). No way could I have risked driving the morning after mine. Probably ok by lunchtime though.
 
RichA said:
The thing about posting our opinions - which they are, not facts - on public forums is that we subject ourselves to scrutiny. If you wish your views to be unchallenged, don't publish them.

Your pension scheme was scrapped because it cannot pay for itself. Your 30 years of payments are highly unlikely to ever pay for the amount that you will receive. My point was that the younger generation can't have a decent pension because they have to pay for yours in addition to their own.
You should be expressing your gratitude to them for your good fortune rather than demeaning them with generalisations.
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Do not lecture me regarding my pension.
 
AmandaJR said:
I've heard and read the same about the effects on the booster (thank goodness). No way could I have risked driving the morning after mine. Probably ok by lunchtime though.
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My first jab was well timed

It was lunchtime that I drove, however if I had to go sick I was overtime anyways so someone else would benefit and would cost the company nothing lol
 
SocketRocket said:
I'm not tarring everyone with the same brush and I thought I had clarified that in my last sentence.
If that's the way it came over then I didn't explain it well. What I was trying to say was that taking advantage of Public Sector work conditions with respect to time off sick has become more acceptable these days and @Kellfires post typified this attitude.

I think there is no doubt that more are 'swinging the lead' these days and especially where the system allows people to get away with it.
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I said majority, not everyone, and having put the boot in with the first line the last line hardly redresses the balance. Poor.

The sort of person who takes advantage of their terms of service does so because they are that sort of person, not because they are in the public or private sector.
 
RichA said:
The thing about posting our opinions - which they are, not facts - on public forums is that we subject ourselves to scrutiny. If you wish your views to be unchallenged, don't publish them.

Your pension scheme was scrapped because it cannot pay for itself. Your 30 years of payments are highly unlikely to ever pay for the amount that you will receive. My point was that the younger generation can't have a decent pension because they have to pay for yours in addition to their own.
You should be expressing your gratitude to them for your good fortune rather than demeaning them with generalisations.
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The pension scheme could pay for itself, had those in charge of the scheme invested the contributions. The BTP pension scheme proves that;

https://btppensions.co.uk/joining-the-Fund/what-is-the-fund

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This is true. I worked for a company once that allowed 2 weeks paid sick leave. Number of people were surprisingly Ill for exactly 14 days every year but never for a period longer than that which was permitted for self certification
 
AmandaJR said:
I've heard and read the same about the effects on the booster (thank goodness). No way could I have risked driving the morning after mine. Probably ok by lunchtime though.
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I thought the 2nd jab is more like to lead to effects because the body is already fighting it a bit?
 
larmen said:
I thought the 2nd jab is more like to lead to effects because the body is already fighting it a bit?
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It seems the AZ is less with 2nd but Pfizer more. Having had Covid I was expecting a reaction as my 1st jab kind of like a booster. So the 2nd will make me superwoman!
 
Billysboots said:
I’ll keep fingers crossed that all those who signed up for the ‘87 will have their benefits reinstated. Stay safe.
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Fingers crossed, already decided that I'll leave after 30 regardless, unless I can get another job, mind you most jobs don't care if you're an advanced driver or you've got your shots course.
 
pauljames87 said:
Covid sickness etc surely isnt counting? I know ours isn't if it's isolating etc as you could be on a warning for following the guidelines

I know planned ops don't count ..

Hadn't been sick since my planned wisdom tooth removal .. which was like 7 years ago until this year's planned op

Doesn't count for work so think I'm up to 10 years no sick now maybe even longer

18 years service and counting
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Correct , covid and having to isolate not part of reviews
 
Billysboots said:
Do not lecture me regarding my pension.
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Hardly lecturing, just defending the younger generation, who will pay for our comfortable retirements, because you questioned their work ethic.
I think anyone needs a little reality check if they call out an entire generation's sense of entitlement when their own is fairly self-evident.
 
RichA said:
The thing about posting our opinions - which they are, not facts - on public forums is that we subject ourselves to scrutiny. If you wish your views to be unchallenged, don't publish them.

Your pension scheme was scrapped because it cannot pay for itself. Your 30 years of payments are highly unlikely to ever pay for the amount that you will receive. My point was that the younger generation can't have a decent pension because they have to pay for yours in addition to their own.
You should be expressing your gratitude to them for your good fortune rather than demeaning them with generalisations.
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How come you are an expert on Billyboots pension? You have made a couple of statements as facts. Care to tell us how you are certain of that?
 
Swinglowandslow said:
How come you are an expert on Billyboots pension? You have made a couple of statements as facts. Care to tell us how you are certain of that?
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I'm not an expert on anything, but I can read. Information on police pensions and the reasons for reform is pretty well reported.
Not looking for an argument - I just take issue with sweeping statements about young people having it easy; it's not like it was in our day - that kind of stuff.
I'm an older person too. I don't want younger people thinking we're all dinosaurs.
 
RichA said:
Hardly lecturing, just defending the younger generation, who will pay for our comfortable retirements, because you questioned their work ethic.
I think anyone needs a little reality check if they call out an entire generation's sense of entitlement when their own is fairly self-evident.
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You’ve got some nerve, I’ll give you that.

How many of the hundred plus return to work interviews I have conducted over many years with young in service police officers following their sickness absence were you actually present at? None, that’s how many. So kindly don’t criticise me for questioning the work ethic of a number of those officers (not the entire generation) when I have direct first hand knowledge of their attitudes and you have absolutely none whatsoever.

Are you aware of their sickness patterns? Of those who have an uncanny tendency to report sick before night shifts, or bank holiday weekends, or other similar trends which tell a clear tale about their attitudes to their job and their colleagues? No, you aren’t. And yet you have the temerity to defend those individuals from me for saying how it is? That’s absolutely priceless.

And the crowning turd atop of your attempt to give me a dressing down because you don’t like what I have to say is to try and justify that by saying I should be grateful that my pension outstrips theirs?

Wind your neck in.
 
Blue in Munich said:
I said majority, not everyone, and having put the boot in with the first line the last line hardly redresses the balance. Poor.

The sort of person who takes advantage of their terms of service does so because they are that sort of person, not because they are in the public or private sector.
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No, not majority but more prevalent than in the Private Sector. There is no doubt in my mind that if people these days can easily (The phrase is 'swing a sicky' I believe) then many will take advantage of it. It's not unique to the Public sector but is certainly more prevalent there.
 
Nothing new here. My first "proper" job was working within an organisation in Millbank which, although not actually Civil Service, was closely related and had the same culture, benefits, etc. On the first day there I was approached by the union rep who tried to convince me to join and in conversation mentioned that I could (if I were "unwell" ;);)) take up to 25 (??) days sick leave without questions asked. As most people did it, it would look odd if I didn't :eek:

My work ethic wouldn't allow me to to do this and I left within a year (as did several others). Shame really as I never had that opportunity to take an additional 5 weeks holiday again.

Good news is that I am looking forward to receiving nearly 1 year's worth of gold plated CS pension when I fully retire. (y)
 
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