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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

Missed having the Municipality Lockdown lifted by one case. We have tiered lockdowns here xxx per 100,000. 0-500, everything is open. 500-1000, town boundaries are closed but all businesses, bars restaurants etc are open. Above 1000, only essential businesses and essential shops are open. Above 2000, you are only allowed out to go to the shop. There's also an 8pm curfew, which allows you to pick up take aways.

Trend is very much going the right way. Currently 102 cases, equating to 1005 per 100,000.

The above, posted earlier, is the positives. We're in a village of 3,000+, of which there's an expat community of around 300. The majority of the expat community is retired, some of them in their late 80's and early 90's. And some of them are very frail. Some of them haven't been outside their front gate since mid-March last year, and in many cases they haven't had hardly a visitor in that time too - some life.

This last lockdown has been very different in so much as everyone knows someone who's had Covid - previously, it was almost remote/distant. Sadly, in the last few weeks many of us know several people who've succumbed to it too. Characters across the community are no longer with us, e.g. Beer Belly Bob, Taxi Juan, Pedro the Pirate and so many more. Even the mayor, early 40's, has been seriously ill with it. 4 recoveries within our bowling club, 2 of which are in their 90's.

Anyway, I digress a little. I mention the above impact, and names, as a reminder that its real people, inc. friends, we are losing or who are having a very restricted time in their twilight years. Many of us have children, albeit grown up, in the UK we haven't seen for a very long time.
 
Thinking of how it is affecting others, anyone heard from Homer? I know he has not logged in for a fortnight. He was struggling with the front line stress of it all. I know he can be marmite for some, but he is a good chap and don't like to think of anyone who is struggling. I know a few chaps here know him, so pass him our best. I hope he managed to get some time off work and the support he needs.

My PM box is always open if anyone wants to chat. Most of what I say is rubbish, but hey! Better than not talking!

x
 
Same here, and again a mate had the Oxford and got a reaction.
I read somewhere that the oxford accident uses a very mild form of the virus: the Pfizer one doesn't. mRNA or something like that.
No doubt Ethan will enlighten us ?

The Oxford and Janssen use a version of a common virus which is harmless to humans as a vector (vehicle) for the genetic code, which then generates the spike protein which in turn generates the immune reaction that protects you. The Pfizer vaccine takes a more direct route and presents the specific instructions about how the immune system should respond.

None of the currently available vaccines contain any Covid virus, so you can't catch Covid from any of them. Some vaccines in development (for example on e of the Chinese ones) are an older style attenuated (weakened) Covid virus type.

The reactions you got are immune reactions in the sense that your body is revving up its immune system. Some people who had Covid infections have noted stronger reactions to their first vaccine, and others have noted stronger reactions to the second vacc (same thing really).
 
I think no jab no job will certainly happen in some job roles. How can you continue in a care home with all the traumas that sector went through, is going through, and not be vaccinated? Surely residents, will ask, those who choose the homes will ask and so on. Once people start moving out, homes lose fees the owners will have no choice. The job is untenable imo.

The same could well apply in any healthcare role, yes NHS, and potentially a whole host of jobs.

Do you think protests would garner much public support? I can't see it.

I agree with you, but unfortunately, I can see the protests?
 
I agree with you, but unfortunately, I can see the protests?
Do you think any protests would work? The weight of public opinion is we desperately want out of this and the vaccine offers the route. Anyone blocking that path is likely to get short shrift. The vaccine refusers are very much a minority and I don't expect much sympathy from the mass of the public. (This view excepts anyone who is unable to take it for medical reasons)
 
Do you think any protests would work? The weight of public opinion is we desperately want out of this and the vaccine offers the route. Anyone blocking that path is likely to get short shrift. The vaccine refusers are very much a minority and I don't expect much sympathy from the mass of the public. (This view excepts anyone who is unable to take it for medical reasons)


We've already started looking at ways to implement no vaccine no entry to the office, legally. It's a grey area.
 
We've already started looking at ways to implement no vaccine no entry to the office, legally. It's a grey area.
I heard someone say a while ago that it is not an issue in a healthcare environment and that some immunisations are already required as part of a job.

In non health environments I'm sure it gets trickier but based on the upheaval and impact of the last 12 months on business I would think the case is pretty strong.
 
I heard someone say a while ago that it is not an issue in a healthcare environment and that some immunisations are already required as part of a job.

In non health environments I'm sure it gets trickier but based on the upheaval and impact of the last 12 months on business I would think the case is pretty strong.

A vaccine passport, or it being mandatory is very much to the fore here in Spain. The way the authorities are looking at this is by saying that not having it endangers public health, which is an offence over here. But then you get the human rights crowd saying you can’t force it on us.

Businesses are saying they have a duty of care to their employees, and that includes limiting the risk of COVID by insisting the staff are vaccinated.

We’re also looking at the legality of this for membership to the bowls club.
 
Thinking of how it is affecting others, anyone heard from Homer? I know he has not logged in for a fortnight. He was struggling with the front line stress of it all. I know he can be marmite for some, but he is a good chap and don't like to think of anyone who is struggling. I know a few chaps here know him, so pass him our best. I hope he managed to get some time off work and the support he needs.

My PM box is always open if anyone wants to chat. Most of what I say is rubbish, but hey! Better than not talking!

x
Although he's not been kn here he has been on other SMs so he's still around.
 
Thinking of how it is affecting others, anyone heard from Homer? I know he has not logged in for a fortnight. He was struggling with the front line stress of it all. I know he can be marmite for some, but he is a good chap and don't like to think of anyone who is struggling. I know a few chaps here know him, so pass him our best. I hope he managed to get some time off work and the support he needs.

My PM box is always open if anyone wants to chat. Most of what I say is rubbish, but hey! Better than not talking!

x

Funny you mention that, I messaged him last night ................................ no reply yet.
I just wanted to hear that he's okay.
 
A vaccine passport, or it being mandatory is very much to the fore here in Spain. The way the authorities are looking at this is by saying that not having it endangers public health, which is an offence over here. But then you get the human rights crowd saying you can’t force it on us.

Businesses are saying they have a duty of care to their employees, and that includes limiting the risk of COVID by insisting the staff are vaccinated.

We’re also looking at the legality of this for membership to the bowls club.

There will be a vaccination passport (perhaps called something else). The Govt is trying not to start to encourage people who are vacc'd to behave differently, but when the over 50s are all vacc'd, it will appear.
 
Thinking of how it is affecting others, anyone heard from Homer? I know he has not logged in for a fortnight. He was struggling with the front line stress of it all. I know he can be marmite for some, but he is a good chap and don't like to think of anyone who is struggling. I know a few chaps here know him, so pass him our best. I hope he managed to get some time off work and the support he needs.

My PM box is always open if anyone wants to chat. Most of what I say is rubbish, but hey! Better than not talking!

x
He’s been active on twitter and updating his woes through his blog, keeping people up to date on how he’s coping etc.
 
We got issued with a card indicating we'd been jabbed... Won't be at all surprised if that doesn't morph into something more at a later time as more get jabbed...

Difficult to find any positives, at this present time, but our local hospital has moved from 170 covid patients [at peak] to 110...

Desperately in need of some alcohol but having had my jab earlier will give it a miss... Post #16,235
 
If any of you use the NHS app (not the track and trace one, the regular one), and your practice uploads to it, the vaccination should appear there. I can't imagine it would be too hard to programme it to produce a QR code for scanning at Malaga Airport, Nando's or the Madejski Stadium.
 
Why when the Vaccine is said to only prevent serious illness? Not prevent infection.
Does it not reduce the potential for infection?

Look at it another way as well. An employee doesn't have the vaccine and is in a role that requires contact with others. If they catch covid can they sue their employer? Can they only perform duties that are solitary?
 
There will be a vaccination passport (perhaps called something else). The Govt is trying not to start to encourage people who are vacc'd to behave differently, but when the over 50s are all vacc'd, it will appear.

You would assume those under 50 are exempt tho?

It makes a tricky situation. I'd wait until every adult had a chance at a jab before mentioning it just to stop any problems.
 
Does it not reduce the potential for infection?

Look at it another way as well. An employee doesn't have the vaccine and is in a role that requires contact with others. If they catch covid can they sue their employer? Can they only perform duties that are solitary?

I don’t know if it does or not - I’m not an immunologist! I can only quote what I read and and whats read can sometimes not be true and and my cognitive bias only lets me read what I want to read.
But I have read more information is coming the infection side.
Doesn’t make sense to me that if it did prevent infection then you still have to wear masks and can’t see anyone.

https://www.healthline.com/health-n...covid-19-after-getting-a-vaccine-what-to-know
 
If any of you use the NHS app (not the track and trace one, the regular one), and your practice uploads to it, the vaccination should appear there. I can't imagine it would be too hard to programme it to produce a QR code for scanning at Malaga Airport, Nando's or the Madejski Stadium.

You'd need more than a covid vaccine to enter the Madjeski safely...?
 
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